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#1 Posted : 30 January 2008 13:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Exdeeps Good afternoon, First of all the problem is sorted, however, lets talk about a hypothetical scenario, lets say a construction barge is operating from a jetty. Where does the HSE, and therefor the HSAW Act, hand over to the Maritime & Coastguard Agency? Is there a defined handover point or a grey area? Can, for example, the WAH regs be applied to a sea going vessel (or barge) or is there a similar maritime equivalent? (Would the vessels flag have any effect?) Just a question borne out of curiosity and a lunch time walk, Jim
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#2 Posted : 30 January 2008 14:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryan Goldsmith 16052 Jim, If you go onto the MCA web (just google it) you will find a similar array of legislation to the HSE but specific to Docks, Ships and boats etc. In reality apart from the enforcment side most subjects are similar to landside requirements eg working at height, confined spaces etc. Regards Bryan
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#3 Posted : 30 January 2008 14:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryan Goldsmith 16052 - or should I say 'Man aloft procedures' but having read the question properly for most 'civils' work of this nature that I have been involved in CDM applied and also notification to local HSE office. The tenders eg diver support vessels were subject to MCA and the Divers to the appropriate cop of the diving regs. We also had to obtain DEFRA licences for working below the MHW mark - (Thats the top of the wet mark on the ocean dip rod). The flag of the vessel would not have any bearing as most things would be leveled out by SOLAS and ISM ( Safety of Life at Sea and the International Safety Management Code) I am not an expert on these but they are the sources I have used for guidance. Regards Bryan
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#4 Posted : 31 January 2008 08:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Exdeeps Bryan, Many thanks, very helpful information, Jim
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#5 Posted : 31 January 2008 10:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves For a precise answer look at the Memorandum of Understanding between the MCA, HSE and MAIB at: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/hsemaibmou.pdf Colin
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#6 Posted : 31 January 2008 10:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves To amplify, if the vessel in question was a ship and alongside in a UK port, then anything on board would come under the MCA/MAIB unless the accident was to a shore employed worker. If so, then the HSE would lead. However, you mentioned a barge. Assuming this to be a dumb barge (no on board propulsion unit) then the line is less clear. Colin
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