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#1 Posted : 31 January 2008 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By javed Ramjaun hello everyone, i have to work on the specifications for a gas type fire suppression system for a data centre. i am stuck between argon and CO2 type. can anyone help me out on this plz? thanks. Regards, Javed
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#2 Posted : 31 January 2008 12:54:00(UTC)
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#3 Posted : 31 January 2008 14:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Wood CO2 is definitely a No, No. This would be a very dangerous system and would have to have so many safety measures built in it would become un-useable. There are several ways you could go. An inert gas system such as Argonite or Inergen but these both have their own problems i.e pressure relief venting etc. Man made chemical gases such as FM200, NAF S3, Novac, would all be ok as well. Again, they have their own set of problems. You could even use High Pressure water Mist such as Fogtec, Hydramist, Hi-Fog etc. As with everything they again have there own unique advantages and disadvantages. Another route would be Oxyreduct. This eliminates the risk of a fire starting altogether by creating an N2 rich atmosphere. I have been involved in the fire strategy and system designs for many very large data centers around the world. One thing you need to consider is the codes of practice for your part of the planet and what the ultimate clients insurer will want.
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#4 Posted : 31 January 2008 17:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colin Reeves Ashley An odd comment "CO2 is definitely a No, No. This would be a very dangerous system and would have to have so many safety measures built in it would become un-useable." If this was the case 90% of the worlds ships would not be at sea! CO2 is the norm, with a secondary system (generally required to have 2 nowadays) being hi-fog in most cases. Colin
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#5 Posted : 31 January 2008 21:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barry Cooper Inergen. Barry
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#6 Posted : 01 February 2008 13:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Wood Colin, you are correct about ships. IMO (International maritime organisation) and SOLAS require these systems to be manually activated from a safe position and any one entering the risk space has to wear breathing apparatus (after a fire). These spaces are also viewed by CCTV. Also, there have been several deaths at sea due to asphyxiation caused by CO2! Hi-Fog (High pressure water mist system manufactured by Marioff Oy in Finland)has been installed in hundreds of ships to protect engine rooms, generators, oil purifiers etc and they are often used as the primary system these days. These systems also protect accommodation spaces unlike CO2. To make a CO2 system safe for a land based risk would require a mechanical lock off, an electrical isolator, a discharge diverter valve. You then have to allow for cold shock to electrical circuit boards in the IT Kit. You would need to install CO2 alarms in the area and in the storage area. Then you have to get rid of the gas after discharge and this would have to be at high level so you have to install an extract chimney. Do I need to go on!
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