Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Admin  
#1 Posted : 31 January 2008 14:58:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By richard1
Hi

I have been given the opportunity to write recommendations on how the format of a blank health and safety audit should look like. In short, my thoughts are to have a 2 section document. The first section should be generic. The second section should be bespoke. Detail within the generic section, I believe should include manual handling, fire safety, slips and trips, ventilation, lighting etc. Within the bespoke section will be governed by the hazards ocurring within the area under the spotlight.

The audit should concentrate on the health and safety management system of the area under the spotlight, looking at current status both legal and good practice issues with a view to compliance and improvement in both areas.

As we have different trading divisions, consistency is important

Could anyone add value to this approach?

Good to hear
Richard
Admin  
#2 Posted : 31 January 2008 17:01:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Ron Hunter
Your approach is much the same as that already avaiable from some of the commercially available off-the-shelf systems, with a pick and mix array of question sets specifically developed for different types of business and specific risks, so yes - sounds good to me.
This also avoids slavish use of a multi-page pro-forma, vast tracts of which are marked "not applicable". This tends to annoy the busy manager receiving the report!
Admin  
#3 Posted : 31 January 2008 17:17:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By richard1
Hi Ron

Thanks for your response, I agree the slimmer the document the better for managers to accept. Sometimes not easy to avoid comprimising substance over "page numbers"
Admin  
#4 Posted : 01 February 2008 09:26:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter
Richard
You have mail.

Badger
Admin  
#5 Posted : 01 February 2008 09:32:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Robert K Lewis
Richard1

Your audit is rapidly becoming an inspection checksheet. Audits are about the operation of the systems for management not looking specifically if this is in order or that is deficient.

There is a very good book recently published on Auditing by Steve Asbury. Can I suggest you take a look at it.

Bob
Admin  
#6 Posted : 01 February 2008 09:50:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Tabs
A true audit compares reality to an adopted system or standard.

It is a lot more than an inspection, it looks at adequacy and completeness.

An inspection might look for controls, an audit should make sure those controls are achieving the required outcome too.

An audit begins a little like an inspection of paper systems and physical practices, but then develops into an investigation - following a trail (vertical or horizontal) to prove that what is being done is appropriate.

In your example, you would need a third section ... what I saw and what I found it leading to. You will never know what that is until you find the chink in the armour and follow it in.
Admin  
#7 Posted : 01 February 2008 10:29:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Tony abc jprhdnMurphy
I agree

An audit is a reality check, basically you told us in your safety package that you were going to do A B C D so we are going to look for evidence that you did A B C D.

My favourite is PAT testing. The whole world says it will do it but then doesnt bother, and in fact as there is no legal requirement it would be easier to leave this section out altogether. The best audits must by definition be generic, but my question is, how valuable is an audit and what is it trying to achieve?
Admin  
#8 Posted : 01 February 2008 10:50:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Robert K Lewis
Ultimately the best checklist for any audit is the auditor themselves and their own experience of the tasks involved at a location. But as is agreed avoid turning it into an inspection.

Bob
Users browsing this topic
Guest
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.