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#1 Posted : 11 February 2008 13:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Costall Hello all, Your advice please, my company operates nationwide as a sub-contractor for all the major house builders. We supply and installation of windows, doors and conservatories, one of the branches is contracted to seal the windows which, can only be done externally. The company have purchased a mobile platform for this task; unfortunately 25% of the tasks can’t be completed off of such a device (Proximity of plots, & other obstructions). When the mobile platform cannot be used the use of a ladder to complete the task has been authorised. Suitable controls have been implemented, ladder safety belt, stand off equipment, ladder to be footed at all time & the completion of a ladder self assessment form. The ladder self-assessment takes into account: . The task, has it got a risk assessment & method statement for it & has the operative read & understood it? . The equipment, its integrity, any damage present, can it be erected at the correct angle etc? . The environmental, weather & ground conditions (Level, stable etc), and overhead electrical cables present? . The individual, have they received ladder/ working at height training in the last 3 years, have they got any medical conditions that could effect them conducting the task safely, are they wearing suitable footwear etc Is the completion of this form reasonable? Or due to all the operatives receiving suitable and sufficient training should they be trusted to use their own judgment??
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#2 Posted : 11 February 2008 16:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy Chris, ladder RA seems reasonable, however, I think you would have a pretty hard time justifying its use taking into account all of the other equipment thats in the market today. Also, it doesnt sound a quick task and one that would need the use of both hands. Cherry pickers and the like have very good distance ranges nowadays. Plus, I guess that the house was surrounded by scaffold at some point or other, so I would think that you would be expected to cooperate with the main contractor to fit the windows whilst scaffold is still present. Holmezy
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#3 Posted : 11 February 2008 16:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap Hey that's strange. I had the same problem when i worked in social housing. I bet the platform is Easidec. We just ensured that all checks were carried out. Toolbox talks given. A ladders register was compiled etc. THere's ;ittle else you can do. It's a pain. I remeber the council paying to have roofs replaced. Then the scaffold came down so that they could do the windows. This was because it was on another budget. How short sighted. The could have done all the works in one go cheaper, quicker and safer. But oh no.
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#4 Posted : 11 February 2008 16:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48 Chris, in a previous existence I was faced with a very similar scenario. We devised a broadly similar approach but supported with a robust audit procedure where checks were made on the procedure being used properly, not used where there was a practical option etc. The danger is that you underwrite the continued use of ladders where you should really be challenging for other solutions. For example, using a ladder simply because the access gear your company has purchased is being used on another job would not be good news. The reality is that in your line of work there will be occasions where a ladder is the only real option. Both for practical access reasons and cost. The trick is to make sure they are only use where a positive decision has been made that their use is acceptable. Your brief outline suggests that you have recognised that. Keep the records to demonstrate that you are actively managing the risks.
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