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#1 Posted : 15 February 2008 08:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ertu
HI,

Is it possible to design and manufacture the steel construction ( -I beam -staircase -handrails -Platforms -gratings -...... ) regarding to the "DIN EN ISO 14122" and not "BS EN ISO 14122" in UK?

Will it be a problem, if I produce the above mentioned parts regarding to DIN EN ISO 14122 (according to the final inspection of Inspection authorities in England)?

Are there any differences between DIN- and BS EN ISO 14122, if yes - which is the stringent one. And what are the differences in detail.
Did you already make some experiences with this issue?

I look forward to your reply.


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#2 Posted : 15 February 2008 09:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
I assume the fact that they are ISO, they are "harmonised" (ie the same) HOWEVER, DIN is German why would you want to manufacture to German standards for the UK market?
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#3 Posted : 15 February 2008 10:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ertu
Thank you for your reply Mitch.

Because of our customer, who insists on the DIN.

I think so too, that they are harmonised. But my problem is that I need an official confirmation that these standards are identical and the inspection will not be a problem, if we use the DIN in UK.

Which are the inspection organisations in UK. Can you help me with Contact-data please?
Maybe I try to get infos there.
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#4 Posted : 15 February 2008 10:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
You have mail.
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#5 Posted : 15 February 2008 10:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi
There is unlikely to be any difference between a BS EN ISO standard and a DIN EN ISO one, except that the DIN one will be in German language!

EN ISO indicates that CEN/CENELEC have adopted an ISO standard after due process.

BS EN ISO means that BSI has adopted as a BS the EN ISO.
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#6 Posted : 15 February 2008 10:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ertu
@Mitch:
I wrote you an email. I ve got your adress on clicking on your name.

@Joshi:
thank you for the Infos. It sounds very logical, what you wrote. But I need an official confirmation that these are identical, to satisfy (the requirement of) the customer. Where can I get such these kind of conformation? Or have you got another Idea to satisfy (the requirements of) the owner.


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#7 Posted : 15 February 2008 11:21:00(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 15 February 2008 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike
I'm not sure how you would ever get "official" confirmation. The final draft standard would have been in English then DIN would have arranged for its translation into German to the best of its ability. Sometimes minor translation anomalies capable of misinterpretation are picked up later in a corrigendum, but in the absence of these the DIN and BS versions are identical for all practical and legal purposes. I don't know how it could be any clearer for your customer. These are the rules of ISO and the national standards bodies.
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#9 Posted : 19 February 2008 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ertu
thank you all for your reply. I still have one question:
- Are in the "BS EN 14122" cross references, which refers to "BS" standards?
For example to BS xxx (and not BS EN xxx)
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