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#1 Posted : 18 February 2008 10:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Antony Ferguson Does anyone out there have a policy for the use of non-sparking hand tools in potentiallly flammable environments? Also, is there any specific HSE guidance on these items, or is it left to user decision making through RA. I'm interested to know who does what, for various applications. Items like scrapers, files, wire brushes, etc that generate sparks when used on carbon steel.
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#2 Posted : 18 February 2008 11:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert. Antony Without specific knowledge of the "potentially flammable area", which I assume is not explosive atmospheres. Segregation of works comes to mind and also that of good general housekeeping.
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#3 Posted : 18 February 2008 15:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch I do not have a policy but if you look at most tool/indudtrial equipment suppliers they all have a Non-sparking tool section, cannot name them for obvious reasons
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#4 Posted : 18 February 2008 15:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Antony I have recently written a Confined Spaces procedure, where under certain circumstances only non-sparking tools can be used, for obvious reasons. Ray
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#5 Posted : 19 February 2008 20:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phillip By authourising the use of non-sparking tools, I take it you are allowing (say) maintenance personnel to work in or near to flammable atmospheres!! To me, that seems to present a poor basis for someones well being. Surely better to eliminate the flammable atmosphere (especially in confined spaces). Comments please
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#6 Posted : 19 February 2008 22:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor I might be flying in the face of popular opinion here but during a recent survey of our site for flammable atmpospheres with a nationally recognised consultancy the question of ignition energy from tools came up and I was told - with great certainty - that research showed that it is impossible to create a spark with sufficient energy to ignite flammable atmospheres by the forces that can be imparted by human forces acting on standard tools. This was certainly a change in a strongly held belief of myself - does anybody else have this understanding Martin
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#7 Posted : 19 February 2008 22:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Todd Erm - doesn't everyone else use non-sparking drum keys to open drums of solvent?! KT
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#8 Posted : 20 February 2008 08:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Martin, "normal use" has never been an issue as far as my experience, garage forecourts etc, it was the dropping and striking of tools that seemed to be the concern. Mitch
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#9 Posted : 21 February 2008 18:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor certainly seems to be a topic warrenting further discussion - where are non sparking tools required? Is there any official guidance? Martin
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#10 Posted : 21 February 2008 21:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Nicholls The term non sparking hand tools is a little misleading, unless you are talking about wood, plastic or leather. All metal tools are capable of generating sparks, when they impact on another hard surface. Non sparking tools only lessen the likelihood of sparks. If you tools impact with steel or concrete a Frictional spark will be generated. All tools are capable of igniting a flammable mixture by sparks generated by friction impact. However for this to happen the spark must have enough heat content and last long enough to heat the flammable air vapour mixture above its ignition temperature, an example would be sparks from a grinder. On the other hand if you have chemically generated sparks caused by impact with certain metals or oxygen containing substances such as rust,(iron oxide) Non sparking tools which contact oxygen bearing materials rust for example can produce sparks which burn hotter and longer than ordinary sparks. Only specific electric motors and switches are classed as SAFE for use in flammable or explosive atmospheres. By ensuring the work area can't develop an explosive or flammable atmosphere it does not matter what tools you use. That includes good house keeping. That is why we control work in confined spaces monitor atmospheres for build up of chemicals or gasses, explosive or otherwise, etc.. Soap box now put away. Regards Alan N
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