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Posted By John A Wright
I'm currently doing PUWER assessments at a customer, of various machines in particular bandsaws, circular saws, pillar drills etc etc.
In Risk Assessments these cutting machines and drills, with moving blades and drill bits, were assessed as requiring emergency stops in addition to the red OFF button, reachable by a free hand or foot in the event of entrapment.
Most of the newer machines have a separate emergency stop, one of those red/yellow buttons/switches, and to their credit my customer has retro-fitted such switches to many older machines.
When I prepared my PUWER assessment documents I included in the checklist a question related to PUWER Reg 16, and L22 guidance note 258 which states 'emergency stops.... should not be used as functional stops during normal operation'. So, the box gets ticked for machines equipped with a separate red/yellow button.
Where I'm having difficulty is with some new cutting equipment/tools that my customer has which are equipped with a red flap that sits over the on/off switches. In an emergency the operator will slap that red flap and this activates only the off button.
The concern I have is that we have here an 'emergency stop' that is also the functional stop, the same button is used every time the machine is switched off, which might be 50 times a day. In fact the flap is always sitting over the on/off switches so in effect the e-stop is ALWAYS used to switch off the machine, 50 times a day.
I expect the reasoning behind guidance note 258 is to avoid over-use of an e-stop (e.g. 50 times a day) as it then becomes more likely to become worn or defective and when that time comes there is no other accessible way of switching off the machine when someone has become tangled up in it.
My question is, then (phew!), are these flap/e-stops really acceptable on new bandsaws, pillar drills and other machines with dangerous moving parts?
John W
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Posted By Robert.
Quite a mouthful John.
I think I know what you mean, that the start operation is shrouded by the red flap to prevent accidental start-up
The actuators irrespective of function should have "life span of actuations". I remember that Telemechanique or other manufacturer provided that info. based on that you could plan in a maintenance schedule. The e-stop could also double up as the functional stop insomuch that it isolates, through safety control relays / contactor, to a fail to safe situation. The stop may also initiate an elecro-brake system on each actuation on some rotating machinery.
If youre having 50 stops a day then you are also having 50 starts except that the actuator makes contact momentarily when pushed. There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to put in a remote e-stop to satisfy the risk assessment should the operator for some reason be unable to actuate an e-stop. But also consider that other persons may not be near enough to use it.
By the way is the red stop flap at knee height?
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Posted By John A Wright
Thanks Robert,
It didn't actually occur to me that the flap prevents accidental start (doh)
- yes, sometimes on and off switches are put too close together, bit like 'save' and 'delete' on computers screens.....
Anyway, on new equipment (made with the switches) some of these flap/switches are at eye height e.g. on pillar drills. Sometimes they are six inches off the floor, e.g. extraction units for the saws.
Other equipment have on-button and e-stop (red/yellow) with no actual off-button. I've seen a knee-height e-stop on a big table saw and my risk assessment would suggest all three - on, off and e-stop - are required for that.
I'm tempted to say that anything with a moving blade or rotating drill should have all three as separate buttons with the e-stop away from the other two and in the most useful/accessible place for the operator or someone else who could assist.
I'm looking at the Screw-Fix catalogue now... the back section for power tools includes new standing bandsaws, planers and table saws some with the flap/switch, some with only on/off (green and red) etc etc.
Maybe I'm going over the top to suggest three separate buttons at my customer but I want the RA and PUWER to be suitable and sufficient, with my signature on them :o/
John W
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Posted By Peter Still
John,
I'm employed by a market leader in supplying e-stop buttons, so I'd like to tell you to fit extra buttons, but that simply can't be justified in many cases. As far as new machinery is concerned, EN 60204-1 will tell you to fit e-stops at all locations where they might need to be operated. However the standards for individual machine types (C standards), that in most cases will have been used to perform an EC Type Assessment for the machines, often allow the use of a combined functional stop and e-stop button. From a pushbutton manufacturer's point of view this is quite acceptable when a good-quality pushbutton is used. 50 stops per day is not a problem for any of the major manufacturers' products.
What is more important is that you understand the tasks to be performed at of each of the machines, and the circumstances when the e-stop might be used. For example if an operator is using one hand to hold a workpiece on a pillar drill, and the other to feed the drill down, he will need to be able to reach an e-stop with his knee or foot but it is unlikely that a bystander would be able to recognise a risk and operate the e-stop. In the case of more complex machinery it is more common for additional e-stops to be needed to deal with problems that are not visible to the operator. However it is preferable to redesign the task to reduce the likelihood of needing to operate an e-stop; in my pillar drill example, the use of an appropriate fixture (e.g. a drill vice) can free up the opertor's hand to operate the stop control, as well as redicuing the likelihood of the workpiece catching on the drill and rotating.
Remember that an e-stop is only there to stop dangerous mechanical movements. It is not for use to keep a machine stopped during e.g. tool changing, and it does not provide isolation so is not to be used for electrical work. There should be a supply disconnecting device that is capable of being locked in the off position and is accessible.
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Posted By Tabs
As a time-served apprentice in a large engineering company, I can tell you that there is no substitute for a nice big red button, close to the workpiece ... and the same at every workstation. I have used a lot of them (apprentices seem to have more problems than men doing the job for the last 60 years LOL).
The time they are most useful, is the time you are going to be in a panic. Panic blinds you often and a big help is knowing where things are going to be, without having to look for them almost.
Over my 15 years as Production Engineer, I experienced a few stop buttons that did not stop the machine - not so with E-stops, thank fully they all worked first time.
Good luck and sign nothing you disagree with :-)
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Posted By Peter Still
Tabs,
I can't argue with what you're saying. As I mentioned, EN 60204-1 would have you install e-stops at all locations where a risk assessment shows them to be necessary, and if you feel they are necessary at multiple locations on each machinethen you can of course install them.
Please bear in mind though that they are not a substitute for adequate safeguarding. As the new Machinery Directive puts it: "Emergency stop devices must be a back-up to other safeguarding measures and not a substitute for them."
As for normal stops failing and the e-stops working, in most cases they are the same kind of device, wired into the same circuit. In some machines the e-stop is monitored to detect electrical failures, but if that's considered necessary on an e-stop it should also be done on the normal stop.
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Posted By Robert Randall
Hi John,
I seem to remember that e-stops are not usually fitted to band saws because there is more danger from stopping the blade suddenly. e.g. broken bits of blade flying about, than there is a likelihood of injury from the moving blade. The latter should be taken care of by guarding.
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Posted By Peter Still
John,
brakes fitted to bandsaws need careful setting to avoid stopping too quickly and breaking the blade. However all machines must by law have emergency stops fitted, with only 2 very specific exceptions allowed in the Supply of machinery(safety) regulations.
Peter
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Posted By John A Wright
Thank you Peter, Tabs, Robert.
For the machines currently without both stop and e-stops the material being worked on at my customer is dense foam sheet so hazards of impacts with flying pieces are much less than with wood or metal.
I favour the big conspicuous red/yellow button where possible. Knee-high e-stops may get forgotten in a panic, and not visible while working etc etc. (But I have noticed a foot e-stop on a table saw which the operators are happy with.)
Some of the bandsaws take about 1 minute to STOP which I said was unacceptable since other operators could come up to use the machine, the blade guards are usually adjusted to leave ~5cms exposed, and the lighting is such that the moving blade isn't always obvious. I did discuss with engineers the issues of fitting brakes on bandsaws and in all cases it was felt that brakes could be fitted safely to stop each bandsaw in 10secs which is the recommendation I've seen in some guidance documents.
John W
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Posted By Peter Still
John,
Ideally you should check with the manufacturer of the bandsaws that the machine and its motor can withstand the likely frequency of operation of the brake - presumably you are considering electrical braking, which can increase the motor's temperature if used too frequently. The manufacturer should also be able to confirm if stopping in 10 seconds is acceptable.
Did you mean there is 5cm of blade exposed when the material being cut is present? That is, is there 5cm exposed under the guard, or 5cm plus the material thickness? Ther blade guard should be adjusted as close as possible to the material being cut.
The advantages of knee-height or foot-operated e-stops are that they can be operated when both hands are occupied (e.g. by holding a workpiece). However they are less accessible to persons other than the operator.
Regards
Peter
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