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#1 Posted : 20 February 2008 22:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By StevenHope I am currently working for a Hotel and the car park is often icy. The ice was a major contributory factor in an accident where a motorcycle ridden by an employee lost traction ending up on its side. I advised that the car park should be gritted when there is likely to be an overnight frost but the Management are insisting that if they grit the car park they are, in essence admitting that there is a problem and if ant incident occurred in the future they would be liable. I have heard of something similar in the past but I would appreciate any clarification on any guidelines that may exist etc. Kind Regards, Steven Hope steven-hope@hotmail.co.uk
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#2 Posted : 21 February 2008 06:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT One of our sites is a shared business park between enormous sheds and grade A office use, the highways are extensive as it traffic flow, I have grit and snowploughs on stand by; the grit goes down when the roads become icy to avoid people sliding around possibly crashing and killing themselves, the pavements are gritted to help stop slips and falls that may also kill a person. All other sites receive a similar treatment and amazingly, really amazingly with tens of thousands of daily vehicles, 1000 + of HGV's and up to 8,000 people just on one site, we have not had one incident ice related in 5 years (that is the time this one has been there) Absolute shoe menders springs to mind therefore in your particular situation. Guilty as charge m'lud for trying to keep em safe! CFT
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#3 Posted : 21 February 2008 07:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sharon If the car park belongs to the hotel then I would say it should be gritted.
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#4 Posted : 21 February 2008 08:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By David J Jones Quite simply - Duty of Care. If the car park belongs to the hotel and it is known to become frosty/icy/slippery - aka dangerous - then there can be no action other than to grit/salt.
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#5 Posted : 21 February 2008 09:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman They don't have to "admit" that there is a problem. The fact that there has already been an incident is good evidence that the problem already exists, that they have knowledge of the problem, and "admitting" or not would not excuse them of future liability. Grit and/or be damned. Merv I've heard this one before "yeah, your right, harry broke his leg, but we can't do anything because that would be admitting it was our fault"
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#6 Posted : 21 February 2008 09:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman They don't have to "admit" that there is a problem. The fact that there has already been an incident is good evidence that the problem already exists, that they have knowledge of the problem, and "admitting" or not would not excuse them of future liability. Grit and/or be damned. Merv I've heard this one before "yeah, your right, harry broke his leg, but we can't do anything because that would be admitting it was our fault"
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