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Posted By warren
Hi, can anyone help?,....
I know there's not fit all but anyone comes across a document that gives guidance on the correct selection of gloves for use with chemicals?
Many thanks
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Posted By willhiem
most of the ppe suppliers will advise you on which ones, once you know the chemicals being used, i suppose you'll have to give them information as to the type of glove needed, gauntlet etc, they usually wont be able to help you on that because they wont know the task.
good occ health book i think by harrington that deals with glove selection and such things.
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Posted By Sharon
Warren,
the MSDS should also provide you with information on what type of glove to use.
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Posted By Chris Packham
Yes. There is a definitive book on this subject. It is: "Protective Gloves for Occupational Use", CRC Press, ISBN 0-8493-1558-1. Chapter 18 deals with this topic. However, before you rush out and order it (I think it is around £90) I suggest you get in touch off the forum (since my daughter and I wrote the particular chapter).
Selection of gloves for protection against many chemicals is much more complex than most people realise. Manufacturers' published data is based on a flawed EN standard and only allows you to select the optimum gloves. It does not provide reliable data on performance obtained under workplace conditions.
Chris
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Posted By Chris Packham
Sharon
Re information from the MSDS. Do not rely on this I recently did a dermal exposure audit for a large printing works. In one area I reviewed 7 MSDS. Every one had the wrong glove recommendation!
Chris
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Posted By Chris Packham
Steve
You are right. However, these charts only provide an indication of which is the optimum glove and then only for a single substance. The moment you start to work with mixtures you have a problem. Furthermore, the charts generally only indicate permeation and degradation separately and not the combination. They do not indicate the level of performance that you will get under actual conditions of work.
I did a study with a UK university on this and found that the actual time could vary enormously, depending upon a whole range of factors, e.g. nature of task, temperature, extent of exposure, flexing, stretching, abrasion, etc. etc. Even the EN standard states that the permeation breakthrough times are only indicative of what might be obtained.
So caution is required in interpreting the information from manufacturers' charts.
Chris
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Posted By John J
Depending on amount used some of the major manufacturers will carry out a glove survey for you.
Often this can result in a cost saving as lots of gloves can be replaced by a few more versatile ones,
John
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Posted By Chris Packham
John
You are correct that some manufacturers will conduct a survey and make glove recommendations. However, having reviewed a significant number of these on behalf of clients, the quality can vary enormously. It can range from the excellent (albeit perhaps too complex in an attempt to cover everything to the optimum degree) to the frankly so poor that I have had to reject it out of hand.
It doesn't seem to relate to the size of the manufacturer either. Some smaller manufacturers are excellent, some of the large ones have submitted poor recommendations. I suspect it depends upon who within the manufacturer carries out the survey, the extent of their knowledge, training and commitment to being objective as compared with merely attempting to sell gloves.
(Or am I being unduly sceptical?)
Chris
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