Posted By Ali What exactly are their complaints ?

Posted By Tony abc jprhdnMurphy I had a similar problem some years ago when the guys erecting a fence/hording prior to delivery of welfare facilities had nowhere to go for a howsyerfather. One of them decided to answer the call of nature in a bin, this was reported to me and I had to investigate. The HSE advice was that the welfare facilities should have been incorporated earlier into the programme and not after the hording. While this is good advice it is often not practical. There was one project where I utilised the local betting shop for toilet use prior to welfare facilities and this is acceptable as far as I am concerned. Interesting though.

Posted By David Brede Hi Beth, If you access the HSE free leaflet Construction Information Sheet N0 18 (rev 1) you will have all the answers and the basis of what anyone should audit your site on.

Posted By Mitch Beth, This is not a transient site so be careful, next time schedule your facilities to be removed when ALL the work has been completed as you would provide before any work commences. As regards this situation keep arguing with them in a nice positive way until the 7 days are up!

Posted By Beth Robinson Thanks for your help guys. Problem is the area we are working in, isn't the "safest". So when the cameras were taken down, we didn't want to keep our wooden cabins there as they go up in flames. In heinsight we should have kept a cabin there, but its difficult when we are doing a clearence of the area where the cabins are.

Posted By MAK Can they use one of your project houses? Are there any public facilities nearby that would be suitable for them to use? wouldnt recommend a nearby pub if I were you. Do they have transport to get there? hopefully it wouldnt be too far away by car or on foot either. Can you provide bottled water? an extra 10 minutes on their welfare breaks to accomodate them? Supply a lunch voucher? it wouldnt amount to much really for the rest of the time required. what nature is the canteen if its not a suitable area for a welfare break or doesnt have power?? have you asked them what they would suggest (obviously in reasonable terms)? ensure their security at all times and that they are inducted / monitored as necessary as per your company policy given the nature of the area you describe.

Posted By Barry Cooper How about bottled water Barry

Posted By Mitch Beth, Hopefully the job will be complete by the time this thread is exhausted!! Happy Easter all I'm of to the pub shortly and back next Wed. Mitch

Posted By David Brede Sure Beth, but in the event of a dispute or an incident you have to defend why you did not follow the guidance and why it was not reasonably practical?

Posted By Sean Brennan Beth, Is is pretty obvious that the project as a whole was a CDM project, you could actually argue that the project has not yet finished as there are remedial works still to be done, so therefore CDM still applies. That means that there will be welfare facilities provided to the end of the construction phase, and remedial works will be classed as construction work. sean