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#1 Posted : 26 March 2008 10:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stefan Daunt We have recently had GPS monitoring systems installed into a fleet of 11 commercial vans, for the budding lawyers amongst, you how would the Company stand in relation to giving a disciplinary to an indivudual who has been seen to be consistantly speeding on data compiled through the GPS system? the drivers have been spoken to on 2 occasions about keeping within the legal speed limits and it may come to a disciplinary but the Company needs to be sure that action can be taken on something that has not been physically detected, i.e the use of a police radar gun.
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#2 Posted : 26 March 2008 11:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Taff2 Wow Stefan - talk about big brother. The question I would ask, was is there a company policy regarding speeding? Did you inform the drivers before you introduced the system that you would be using the data to track compliance with the road traffic act? Another issue could be termed victimisation - do all company vehicles have the GPS fitted - including the MD's car? Will you seem to be targeting this group of individuals? Does the tasks set by their managers allow for deliveries to be made within the national speed limits? or are employees forced to break the law? Can you prove all this? Does the manufacturer of the GPS system verify that its system is accurate enough for you to be able to calculate the exact speeds of the vehicles? Have you taken all other action to prevent the driver from speeding? Has he been coached? Sent on a safe drivers awareness course?
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#3 Posted : 26 March 2008 11:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer Instead of looking at disciplinary actions for speeding. Would it be better to investigate why the drivers are speeding on a regular basis for example -what is the daily workload of the individuals- Eight hours work plus driving time all within eight hours = speeding or underachievement of the work. On the other hand if it is just rushing to get the job done then why not change your systems and make the drivers report back to the depot as soon as the work is completed. This will guarantee that they will drive slower. Regards Ted
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#4 Posted : 26 March 2008 12:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stefan Daunt All the drivers have had defensive driver training and in the event of him being fatigued or unable to complete his journey safely then they are required to take sufficient rest, i.e overnight accommodation until fit to drive. The system was introduced more for customer service than a big brother, but since installation has thrown up this trend for speeding. The majority have taken it onboard, but a couple persist occasionaly in the 80-100mph range. The drivers were made aware before hand of installation and the driving policy does include road traffic act offences. Curious to know what legisation the 8hr working day comes under?
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#5 Posted : 26 March 2008 14:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer Never even mentioned legislation just used it as example dear boy. Curious to know where the belief it was legislation came in. Regards Ted Thought for the day-if big brother doesn't get you, little brother will grass you up?
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#6 Posted : 26 March 2008 14:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stefan Daunt Thanks for the reply Ted, on re-reading your post it does actually give 8 hrs as an example not legislation. Sorry for the confusion old bean.
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#7 Posted : 26 March 2008 15:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer Hi Stefan, Thanks for the reply. One thought as they are commercial vans could you not have them fitted with speed restricters (governors) Regards Ted
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#8 Posted : 26 March 2008 15:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stefan Daunt Hi Ted, I have looked into that today, not a problem with the Vito's but not recommended by Seat for our Alhambra's.
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#9 Posted : 28 March 2008 10:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barrie (Badger) Etter Stafan Fit the speed restrictors to the vito's and then stuff the speeders in the vito's until they get the message!
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