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#1 Posted : 01 April 2008 17:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Could I please ask the construction specialists amongst you a simple question - CHAS assesses the Health & Safety competence of contractors but what exactly does Constructionline do? Thanks in anticipation, bob
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#2 Posted : 01 April 2008 20:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gerry Marchant i'd be interested in replies on this one considering we have just had a 'run in' with constructionline over our status and lost a major contract because of it!!
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#3 Posted : 02 April 2008 08:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael Battman Exactly the same. They are competing schemes.
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#4 Posted : 02 April 2008 08:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Not sure about the comopetence statement in your posting either. Bob
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#5 Posted : 02 April 2008 09:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anthony Mullen CHAS and Constructionline are designed to give buyers a choice of legitimate suppliers. With Chas they inspect your overall attitude to Health & Safety through policies and reactions and this year it's introduced an environment questionnaire. Constructionline is more of the same but with customer feedback scores added. It's basically remote H&S assessment relying on truthful answers, a lot of firms get a third party to complete the questionnaires and receive their certificate without meeting the satisfactory levels but they've essentially ticked the right boxes.
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#6 Posted : 02 April 2008 09:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac It is simply a database for possible Clients to source contractors, there are references etc for them to view past work. I would like to know more about the past poster losing a contract because of it. I personally am not 100% sure of its worth, despite the company I work for being part of it. Lee
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#7 Posted : 02 April 2008 09:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Thanks everyone for letting me have your views. I am however confused by Michael's answer 'they are exactly the same'. On the Health & Safety section of the Suppliers Application Form it clearly states 'Constructionline does not assess the information in any way. You cannot use registration with Constructionline to claim compliance with Health and Safety standards'. Hence my original question. Bob
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#8 Posted : 02 April 2008 09:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anthony Mullen That may be the case Bob but you certainly have to submit all relevant documents such as insurance, H&S policy even accounts (including your Chas cert). My companies application was put on hold until the feedback scores went in.
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#9 Posted : 02 April 2008 09:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Yes Anthony, they certainly do collect an awful lot of info but if they don't assess it what exactly do they do with it. Back to my original question - what exactly is constructionline's role, what is its purpose? Bob
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#10 Posted : 02 April 2008 10:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac A database for cleints sourcing potential contractors.
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#11 Posted : 02 April 2008 10:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael Battman 'Exactly the same', was probably too precise. 'They are similar tools', would be a better phrase. Sorry for the confusion.
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#12 Posted : 02 April 2008 10:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By AF To throw an additional spanner into the works. Companies who hold CHAS approval can obtain constructionline approval without a full assessment by constructionline. But CHAS will NOT approve companies on the basis of holding Constructionline approval. Explain?
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#13 Posted : 02 April 2008 10:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Thanks Lee, you've said that twice now. So let me check that back with you - Constructionline is simply a database containing information on the individual suplliers on their register. The Health & Safety info is not assessed or verified(unless you include CHAS in your application) . Therefore suppliers can claim anything they like and buyers are supposed to rely on this. Fantastic scheme!
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#14 Posted : 02 April 2008 11:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By John D Crosby Hi Some time since I was involved with these to schemes but as I remember Constructionline was set up to provide information re viability of companies re financial standing etc to help buyers when sorting out tenders. It did not at that time have any H&S data about companies etc. CHAS was set up to provide buyers with information re the H&S systems within companies etc. They are two distinct schemes although a few years ago there was a move by Constructionline to include CHAS information in their data. John C
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#15 Posted : 02 April 2008 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Hi Some time since I was involved with these to schemes but as I remember Constructionline was set up to provide information re viability of companies re financial standing etc to help buyers when sorting out tenders. It did not at that time have any H&S data about companies etc. CHAS was set up to provide buyers with information re the H&S systems within companies etc. They are two distinct schemes although a few years ago there was a move by Constructionline to include CHAS information in their data. John C Eureka!!!! Thanks John for tackling my question directly. Everything now makes a lot more sense!!! (Looking at at all the other posts in this thread it seems I was not the only one who was confused) Regards, Bob
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#16 Posted : 02 April 2008 11:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anthony Mullen Response to AF, as Bob has indicated that they do not assess H&S at Constructionline. They do with CHAS which is why it is shown on Constructionline (they display your certificate to users). They are definitely different schemes but both are required by Local Authorities to be an approved supplier.
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#17 Posted : 02 April 2008 12:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Thanks for this Anthony, most helpful. Bob
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