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Posted By Paul Tidswell
Can someone please give me a bit of advice on this one?
First off the background to this issue; I work at on an RAF base for a civilian company as a fire fighter and act as the fire station health and safety rep. Now being a fire fighter a certain level of fitness is required and we recently were offered the use of the fitness suite based in the ATC building next door that is run by the RAF. This facility only involves fitness machine (running, rowing, step, etc.) and no free weights so could see no real problem with this health and safety wise (although I may be wrong on that).
Now my company was approached and asked if they would like to help financially with this facility which I think first brought up the health and safety issue (trying not to be cynical here) and that of insurance. It was stated quite clearly that the company insurance would not cover us using this facility, however, where do we stand legally on this issue as surely the RAF would have some form of insurance, most companies do.
Hope you get the general idea.
Paul
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Posted By Stefan Daunt
As a member of the reserve forces myself, I would personally say that as long as civilian staff are given a formal induction by a qualified PTI or qualified gym staff on the equipment in the facility and the fact recorded, that should an incident arise and an injury occur that they would be covered by the MOD insurance.
Although you may not be using free weights, the use of running machines can be dangerous if staff are not trained in there use. If they are not aware that they can effectively emergency stop the machine, a serious injury could occur if they where to come off of the rear at speed.
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Posted By Paul Tidswell
Thanks Stefan,
Done a bit more looking into this and apparently the machines are acquired through various means so not covered by the PTI's (seeing as my company run the local gym in conjunction with the RAF we do have access to this facility although distance from fire station is a minor issue) so have refused to sanction this. However, if an individual decides to use these machines as we can not stop access, even though we have not sanctioned it, surely that would be on individuals own personal liability. Or do I clearly state that this facility is not to be used by company personnel in company time?
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Posted By lizzie harvey
Hi Paul
I was posted to a RAF camp as a civvy a few years ago. We could use the gym after induction by a PTI and payment of £48 for insurance. Maybe that's what they're after? Surely your company could fork that out?
All the best
Lizzie
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Posted By Paul Tidswell
Hi Lizzie
This issue was more about accessibility (i.e. on our doorstep rather than travelling about a mile to a proper gymnasium). We do have free access to this gymnasium run by my company but have to ensure certain response times to any fire call received by the station. Luckily this is all within the local area that is why it is a minor issue. So I think I will stick with the fire fighters using a proper gymnasium rather then the acquired equipment next door. As a personnel interest what RAF camp was it (email direct rather then this open forum)?
Paul
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