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#1 Posted : 21 April 2008 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By GJB Davis Hi all, I took my daughter to a Chess competition on the weekend which was held in a Comprehensive School Sports Hall. In the reception area there was a white board with a sample risk assessment written on it and on tables there were copies of a written explanation of the concept of risk assessment. I thought it strange that they were using a standard 3 x 3 risk matrix, although in reverse order. 1 x 1 = 1 meant high risk and 3 x 3 = 9 meant low risk. Has anyone else come across this method and do you think it will cause confusion? Regards Giles
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#2 Posted : 21 April 2008 10:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By anon1234 Don't see it as a problem, as long as it is documented what the scoring system means. The important things are that the assessment is undertaken by someone competent, the key points are recorded, the required actions/controls are effectively communicated, and the required actions are taken.
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#3 Posted : 21 April 2008 11:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By MP ... and the significant risks of a chess competetion are..?
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#4 Posted : 21 April 2008 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Scotty Falling asleep while playing, and your head subsequently bouncing off the board, leaving you with a pawn in your eye. Dangerous stuff indeed.
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#5 Posted : 21 April 2008 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By GJB Davis Sorry, didn't make myself clear. The risk assessment was not for the Chess Competition it was just an example lesson that the school's students had been doing but it was left on the whiteboard.
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#6 Posted : 21 April 2008 12:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark R Burford By multipling numbers together you can only get a set number of results, with a 3x3 grid there are 6 possible outcomes (1,2,3,4,6,9), if you use a 5x5 grid you get 14 possible outcomes. By reversing the grid so low numbers equal high risks then you get more numbers at the high risk end, thus giving the results more meaning and enabling these risks to be better prioritised. i.e. Risk Rating 1-2 = an Intolerable Risk (1 or 2) 3-6 = Substantial Risk (3,4,5 or 6) 7-14 = Moderate Risk (8,9,10 or 12) 15-19 = Tolerable Risk (15 or 16) 20-25 = Trivial Risk (20 or 25) At the end of the day it does not matter which system you use as long it is documented and consistent Regards Mark
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#7 Posted : 21 April 2008 12:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By dave burrage I may be going gaga but i dont understand what you mean by 'more numbers at the high end', in your worked example you seem to have two numbers at both the high AND LOW ends? I am just trying to understand your logic.
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#8 Posted : 21 April 2008 12:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew M I always thought on a 3x3 grid there were 9 outcomes and a 5x5, 25 outcomes
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#9 Posted : 21 April 2008 12:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Whilst I agree that the abstract concept of numbers representing risk can be applied both ways equally well, I must ask why buck the trend? Representing +ve, -ve and earth wires in electrics by colors is equally abstract, so should I teach children that wiring the +ve as green and yellow is fine too? Of course not. We work hard in life to explain the concept of risk and risk evaluation. I think a school should take the national standard seriously if they are going to teach this subject (and all praise to them for teaching risk assessment, what a great thought ... almost).
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#10 Posted : 21 April 2008 13:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By GJB Davis Tabs, Couldn't agree more with you. Giles
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#11 Posted : 21 April 2008 15:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By anon1234 I think Mark has hit on a good reason for the low numbers equating to higher levels of risk. As he states in a 3x3 matrix you can have a score between 1 and 9. However there are actually only 6 possible scores within that range, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 9. We generally are not interested in low probability/ low consequence events so it makes more sense to have some differentitors at the high risk end of the scale whilst still making the numbers look similar. i.e. 1,2,3 and 4 would all be the higher risk issues to manage, whilst 6 would be medium and 9 low risk. Using the scale in the more traditional manner gives low risk as 1, medium risk as 2 and higher risks as 3,4, 6 and 9. Probably a mute point, but as long as everyone is aware of how the matrix is working its not a problem. I don't see this as the same as electrical wiring were there are recognised intenational standards on the subject. In risk assessment there is NO agreed single matrix.
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