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Posted By Tim S
I might be opening a can of worms here! Is there a correct hierarchy of HSE positions from Grass Roots to Director. If not does anyone have any thoughts. I've been given the go ahead to get an assistant, but I'm fighting with HR over the job title / salary.
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Posted By Tabs
Try describing what they will do.
The most obvious is HSE Advisor (drop the E if no environment done).
Officer and Manager are normally reserved for the senior or mid-management, and director when actually appointed to the board.
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Posted By Linda Westrupp
Basically the answer to your question is that there isn't one. In my experience Officer is usually someone at a relatively low level who does inspections, Adviser is a higher level (mid management?) and tends to be involved in policy and strategy, Manager is someone with a team, although often it is actually a sole Adviser!. the only one which seems to be consistent is Director and only because they have a place on the board. In other words the same job has various titles depending on the organisation. I think you will find if you search this site that there have been several threads and none came to any definite conclusions. You get as many answers as there are H&S professionals. Even HS&E in a title doesn't always meant he same, it usually means H&S plus Environment but in public sector it could mean H&S plus Emergency Planning so no consistency there either!
Suggest you look at your company's practice in other areas and argue for something similar.
Good luck
Linda
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Agreement about job roles and titles may well simply be one part of a 'fighting with HR' process that benefits very few.
Disputes about words are often about emotions and values when one or both parties overlook vital issues about employee motivation and behaviour reinforcement.
A common root difficulty in such situations is that HR are seldom trained in technical aspects of safety management but may be better trained than their safety colleagues in issues about organisational development and strategic change.
A 'negotiating' stance may mean conceding to more of their preferences about the formal roles and titles while at the same time enlarging the basis for agreement for the future.
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Posted By Colin Reeves
Try introducing the word "Superintendent" to HR - that really does confuse them!!
Colin
Marine Superintendent
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Posted By willhiem
Good choice but too short for the mordern day hierarchy!!!
try maybe...
Junior Vice Superintendent of Health and Safety Affairs, it both impresses and confuses in equal measure
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Posted By Colin Reeves
Superintendent of Vice - now that conjures up ideas!!
Colin
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Posted By Darren (Daz) Fraser
Stick the word Assistant in front of your job title and then ask the Talent Acquisition and Development (TAD) Department (a.k.a Human Remains...............sorry Human Resources) if that is acceptable.
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