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#1 Posted : 09 May 2008 11:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony McIntosh
The final exit fire escape doors in our warehouses are non-fire rated steel doors with a surface bolt closing mechanism on the inside of the door. While i'm aware that the final exit doors do not have to be fire rated, I read in the international fire code that surface bolts are not permitted. However, the occupancy level in the event of an evacuation would never exceed 5. The doors can be opened easily and cannot be locked from the outside. I have been asked whether they should be changed to fire rated 'panic bolt' doors. Personally, I don't think this would dramatically improve the safety of our staff. We store metal ingots in the warehouses, so the risk of fire is also very low.
Any thoughts / opinions welcome
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#2 Posted : 09 May 2008 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Adams CMIOSH
Tony
As you say the installation of panic bolts should make no tangible difference to safety in this case.

To cover all the angles you need to have evidence that all involved know how to operate the closing mechanism, the bolts are appropriately signed, etc., and include this in your risk assessment.

If members of the public were involved, this would be a different matter.

No sensible, pragmatic fire officer should ask you to retrofit panic bolts in this instance (my opinion!).
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#3 Posted : 09 May 2008 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anthony Edwards
Tony,

There are plenty of final exits out there with a variety of blots/locks. On a recent fire course the fire officer told us that although technically they should be push bar the Fire Brigades were aware of security issues and it would be extremely unlikely they would issue a an enforcement notice, but he stated that all final exits must be unlocked/unbolted so they can be operated by one movement whilst the building was occupied.

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Nutty
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#4 Posted : 10 May 2008 23:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Wood
Why not use the glass bolt mechanisms, this will then make it easier to escape the building and would address the security issues. I notice you refer to 'International fire codes' it is unusual for someone to refer to the UK fire regulations as 'codes'. Are you overseas?
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