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Posted By David Ferrier
Thoughts please - a Medical Treatment Injury (ankle sprain) to an employee whilst participating in "Paintballing" event, during normal work time. The event was organised as a team-building day, with an expectation that personnel would participate.
Does the MTI get included in the employing company statistics as work-related?
David
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Posted By David Bannister
Yes. Work time, work organised, presumably a "team building" jolly. Possibly pressure to participate too.
If this then results in >3 days absence then I believe it is RIDDOR reportable.
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Posted By Jay Joshi Your basic question is whether it is work related. In my view, if it was in works time, and the employer has a significant degree of control over its internal organisation etc , despite it being hosted by a outside professional provider and attendance was required, it is work related. On the contrary, if it was a "social event", outside working hours and attendance completely voluntary, it is not work related. UK RIDDOR reporting does not explicitly requires "medical treatment" as a reportable one, unless the RIDDOR requirements are triggered. OSHA recording has a category for "medical treatment" i.e. anything that is beyond a prescriptive set of first aid criteria! A sprain on its own is not medical treatment under OSHA guidelines. For details of OSHA Recording, refer to:- http://www.osha.gov/pls/...vel=1&p_part_number=1904
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Posted By David Ferrier
I'm comfortable with it being categorised as an MTI under OSHA, as the IP attended hospital and was prescribed painkillers and anti-inflammatories, following an X-ray.
It isn't, as yet, RIDDOR reportable, as he was able to continue his normal duties the following day.
My own view is that it is work-related, as there was a degree of expectation that he would take part, even though not mandatory.
David
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Posted By Konstanty Budkiewicz
David,
Having "Googled" some paint ball sites, I note that PPE footwear appears to be optional (lots of trainers seen). I note that the Army, who engaged in a more vigorous version of the sport, use a high-leg boot that provides some ankle protection (PPE to reduce risk of sprains).
Based upon your evidence it may be useful to discuss this PPE issue with your provider and to advise your participating staff accordingly in their event joining instructions.
Kon
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Yes it is recordable as a work injury, that is quite plain to see from the responces recieved to date. Why not ask the orgaisers for thier advise. I'm sure it is not the first time they have had an injury resulting from the activity, ask them. Any activity taken during employment whether a fun thing like paint balling is still a work activity so will need to be recorded as a work accident and the file maintained appropriately. If there is a likelyhood of a claim being made speak to the organisers and get thier advise.
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Posted By Tabs
"the IP attended hospital "
Under RIDDOR the paintball hosting company is required to report it - a member of the public or people not at work having been taken to hospital.
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Posted By Jay Joshi
Many of us who use OSHA recording criteria to classify accidents and illnesses for internal safety statistics ( and to compare it with others who use the same criteria) can find it extremely difficult to interpret it!
This has nothing much to do with either RIDDOR reporting, recording in the Accident Book. allocating liability or fear of claims etc, but simply whether it is an OSHA "recordable" accident.
There are 2 main factors. The first one is work relatedness and the second is whether it meets the general or other specific recoding criteria!
It is my contention that organisations using the OSHA recording criteria (for EMPLOYEES) as an indicator of safety performance tend to become extremely risk averse. This is because of what constitutes OSHA medical treatment includes being prescribed medicine or use of sutures/medical glue or even use of non-prescription medicine at prescription doses!
For example, an employee who gets a cut on the arms that requires a stitch or two, despite being able to return to normal work immediately would not be RIDDOR reportable, but constitutes Medical Treatment under OSHA recording!
Whereas it may be a positive aspect to make some comparisons, it was not the regulators aim that the recording criteria be used as a key safety performance indicator as it is a reactive/lagging indicator.
(Many of the Oil & Gas/Petrochemical companies use the OSHA recordable criteria)
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