Posted By micklecats Hello Gang, Just need some opinions: An employee who is on a training course off site is hurt in an inoccuous incident (no collision, fall, slip, trip - just a simple change in posture). The person is taken to hospital for checks, nothing is broken. Time from normal duties is lost, including a weekend and a few days therefore the 3 day rule is applied. So who should report? Reg 2 of RIDDOR implies that the responsible person would be the person in charge of the premises. However, is the person undertaking work duties? They were being paid whilst on the training course, so this is likely to be the case. Table 1 in RIDDOR Explained does not really venture this far in any detail, it just mentions the employed at usual premises or at someone elses premises, and the self employed at someone elses premises, etc. Peripatetic employees who roam to varied locations would be reported by their employer - would this be the case in this instance? RIDDOR for me is in need of urgent and significant revision as I feel it is rather ambiguous and out dated - so if anyone has an idea of when this is planned could you please advise, cheers. If anyone can comment through experience or opinion I would be grateful thanks.

Posted By ITK It is non reportable.

Posted By Paul Cornet From the details gievn I would agree with ITK.

Posted By ITK The OP asked who was responsible for reporting this incident. I believe I answered the question by stating it was not reportable. Someone merely changing posture at work, or on a training course, does not constitute arising out of or in connection with a work activity. Not reportable. ITK

Posted By claret65 The 'responsible person'(RP) is the company employee appointed to undertake duties, enabling compliance with RIDDOR. In this scenario your company RP is responsible for reporting this lost time injury(over 3 days-not including day of injury),as it occurred whilst individual attended an event associated with work.

Posted By geoff whiteley Just to complicate this issue a little. If the person was not on training course but on a Work Placement and subject to the Placement Providers Health & Safety procedures, would the Training Provider or the Placement Provider be regarded as the Employer and then be responsible for RIDDOR reporting ? We should also beware of accidents being over reported (ie by both parties) and distorting reporting statistics

Posted By Phil Errup Can I throw a curveball. The training course. Suppose it was a manual handling course. (or something that involved a degree of physical interaction), perhaps the instructor was perhaps over zealous and had the class doing all kinds of silly things. The end of the day, just altering their posture agrevated something or other, and bingo...they're injured. From the top line I agree non reportable. But if my scenario is a real one, is it still non reportable? I ask because I'm thinking along the lines of proving the cause of injury, and the "event" being.. "I changed posture". Not meaning to hijack the thread. Just enjoying the varying replies. Phil