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#1 Posted : 16 July 2008 15:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ellen B
Hi All,

I'm trying to solve one of our working at height problems, the removal of containers/cabins from the back of hiabs or when using crane to off load.

I was wondering about the use of inertia reels for example:- operative clipping the inertia reel onto the hook of the hiab/crane and then when needed pulling the hook down by the use of a rope to enable the hook be be connected onto the operatives harness so that he would be protected from falls as soon as he left the ground.

Can anyone out there help me, with advice or the supplier of a good product.


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#2 Posted : 16 July 2008 16:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
Ellen,

I have quite a file on this subject, unfortunately no satisfactory answer! I have looked at various systems, taken 'expert' advice all to no avail. If anyone can come up with a practicable solution I for one would be very interested, not as interested as our blokes who do this on a regular basis across the globe on remote sites. Contact me off forum if you want to discuss in more detail.

Regards

Mitch
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#3 Posted : 16 July 2008 16:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By MickN
Ellen,

I've used the exact system you have described and when carried out by responsible personnel it works beautifully. 100% tie-off. I would consider it a construction safety standard.

I cannot recommend a supplier, however, any safety equipment supplier should have an inertia-reel of the appropriate length.

Mick
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#4 Posted : 16 July 2008 16:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By willhiem
I've seen this used countless times on site, always been a bit suspect of it, but i've never been able to think up an appropriate method otherwise. having said that, think someone commented earlier, those doing it always seemed aware of the risks and did everything by the book, though i suppose like everything it only takes one!!
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#5 Posted : 16 July 2008 16:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
We discounted (in consultation with equipment suppliers!) the use of inertia reels on the same basis as forklift cages, the operative has no control over the anchor point. What effective length do you specify?
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#6 Posted : 16 July 2008 16:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By alex mccreadie
There are a lot of systems on the HSE website that would help. Some of them cover similar methods that you mentioned. I like many others devised a system which has worked and passed many MCG scrutiny's.

Good Hunting Alex
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#7 Posted : 16 July 2008 16:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Couch
Ellen, Contact the safety department at Milbank Trucks as they carry this out on a daily basis.

Steve
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#8 Posted : 17 July 2008 12:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By J.Morrison
Ellen,
just noticed your posting.
We looked at this problem in a slightly different context, unloading steel and accessing storage racks. We discovered that
the HSE had already looked at this issue and produced SIM 03/2007/15 which although not an exact parallel, might be worth a look as some of the points raised are relevant to your situation.

John
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#9 Posted : 17 July 2008 12:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By ianmilne69
Another suggestion to consider; what about a 'hangmans noose' set up which i used successfully in a previous employment. In essence, a empty metal box filled with concrete, and a high right angle iron section (over engineered of course) welded to it with forklift pockets to allow mobility. A fall arrestor and harness was then fitted with rope to allow retrival and sporodic visual test.

I have seen this in several sites now-a-days.

For my current employers; to reduce falls off trucks - we have just fitted a solid frame, concreted into ground with movable tracking at the top. To this, a fall arrest and harness will be fitted. We are now looking at getting it commissioned so our insurers will accept it as 'suitable' for one of our risk control measures........
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#10 Posted : 17 July 2008 13:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
Ellen,

A couple of interesting links if you have not already been there!

http://www.wahsa.co.uk/content/view/1/2/

http://webcommunities.hs...eightSolutions/groupHome

Mitch
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#11 Posted : 18 July 2008 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Hinckley

Ellen

We have very succesfully introduced the working procedure across many companies with similiar working at height issues.

CRITICAL that you choose the right inertia block, many of them are innefective working with cable inclined.

Please contact me if you would like any further advice on how we dealt with this and anchors, blocks etc...used

Richard
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#12 Posted : 22 July 2008 16:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
Ellen,

Cannot access your email, will you contact me direct I have some info' which you may find useful.

Mitch
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