Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Admin  
#1 Posted : 03 September 2008 21:15:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By steve g Had an issue today ,a trade union elected safety rep went to a care home of which i am responsible for the companies health and safety apparently the lock off isolator was too high even though we had an engineer of theirs check before installation,therefore we advised there was no requirement to move it as a safety mat and pupose built ladder was available to lock off however the safety rep recommended lowering the switch to enable isolation from standing on floor level ,however i advised this could not be achieved easily as residents walking around the home could potentially isolate the lift carriage whilst the lift was in use any ideas welcomed on this steve
Admin  
#2 Posted : 04 September 2008 12:45:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Ron Hunter I'm with you Steve. It's up there for a reason.
Admin  
#3 Posted : 04 September 2008 15:00:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Bob Shillabeer Am I reading this correctly? The lock off is to isolate the lift, if so why would anyone other than amaintenance engineer need to operate the lock off? Why have it in a position that anyone can operate it? I don't know of anyone having access to such a devise in relation to operating the lift in normal working conditions. Tell the rep that it is too costly to have it moved into a position whereby anyone can have access to it resulting in interference and say NO.
Admin  
#4 Posted : 04 September 2008 15:27:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Anthony Edwards Steve, He/she is a safety rep from what your initial post says, I may be incorrect but he/she is not an advisor. Explain that the lift will require isolation whilst maintenance is conducted and there could be a chance of it being switched on if at a reachable height.(Would be locked under PTW I know but does the rep)? Nutty
Admin  
#5 Posted : 04 September 2008 19:04:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By steve g hi yes the problem is the elected safety rep is also the lift engineer ,however i had the head of health and safety down as i did not agree and he agrees with us but wants to tread careful mmmm not sure what to say about that! the lift company will locate at no cost to us im told, i have now sugested that if they want it lower they provide a lockable cabinet to put it in of which the key will be with the person in charge of the building and unlocked when the maintenance person calls,seems a bit ott to me perhaps he dont like steps! steve
Admin  
#6 Posted : 05 September 2008 11:22:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Robert K Lewis Am I reading you correctly that this lock off is in an general access area. This seems a little odd as the normal position is within the lift motor room. Alternatively are you referring to a wheelchair type lift, enclosed, in which case the lock off isolator ought to be local to the power supply distribution board. Bob
Admin  
#7 Posted : 05 September 2008 11:28:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By A Campbell Hi Steve, Maybe is view is to avoid working at height by placing the switch lower? I'd expect access would be limited to throwing a switch/locking off .. time minimal, once every 6 months or infrequent breakdowns?
Admin  
#8 Posted : 05 September 2008 13:03:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Ron Hunter I had assumed what was actually being described was a Fireman's Switch - necessarily and quite deliberately placed out of reach of everyone else! Steve G has the task of confirming what this switch is for (and ensuring via electrical test and inspection regime that it will function when it has to!).
Admin  
#9 Posted : 05 September 2008 16:27:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By steve g hi all yes it is a wheelchair and persons lift in a care home,they did not want the isolator in the lift motor room as they wanted to lock off before getting to the motor room,at present the isolator is at 6ft 4ish and isolates power to the lift and switch assembly leaving only power to the in room lighting,for maintenance and testing purposes
Admin  
#10 Posted : 05 September 2008 16:33:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By steve g yes with regards working at height ,i fully appreciate that concern which is why we have a purpose built ladder and safety electrical flooring in a nearby locked storeroom so that access is allowed for these infrequent checks and brakdown scenario,whilst ladders are not ideal this is one that is secured and has been approved by their own h and safety reps,their is a maintenance person on site who would at most normal times even carry the ladder for him
Admin  
#11 Posted : 07 September 2008 23:16:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Colin Shouldn't the isolator be accessible in order to assure the safety of personnel carrying out maintenance? Colin.
Admin  
#12 Posted : 08 September 2008 00:55:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By John Richards Shouldn't the isolator also be capable of being locked in the off position ?
Users browsing this topic
Guest
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.