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Posted By Barry Cooper Folks It's Monday so here goes. A steward in a club drinks alcohol whilst working. I have advised the club committee that this is still considered drinking at work and should be prohibited, and if it continues, he should be disciplined.
Is my advice reasonable
Your thoughts would be appreciated
Barry
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Posted By Robert_N sorry to ask Barry but what is the role of a steward?
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Posted By Barry Cooper The stewards duties include:
Receiving delivery of goods - barrels, bottled drinks, supplies etc
Cleaning beer lines (chemical use)
Stocking shelves (from upstairs storeroom)
Changing barrels
Cleaning
Serving behind bar
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Posted By Mitch Barry,
Nothing in law about drinking at work, what does his contract contain?
Mitch
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Posted By A Campbell Look at it as a combined HR issue... contract of employment terms & conditions?
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Posted By justgossip We have the same situation,
the bar steward is a sensible lad and exercises some common sense in relation to what he will drink during the course of his duties.
Hence we have not done anything other than we keep a casual eye on the stewards ready to act if sdome thing should alter thier idea of common sense.
Does not eliminate the problem of drink, but not completely unreasonable given the environment, 2000 years history of bar staff having the odd tipple with a customer and 20 years without an incident drink related in the club.
it is feasible that we could have a situation but we are happy to live with and answer for matters arising
Garry
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Posted By A Campbell Sounds like a potential nightmare if circumstances develope. You do not condone drinking whilst at work, but MAY condone excessive drinking or acting under the influence of alcohol during hours of employment.
So if the employee has so many units and has to carry items from a to b... slips over, breaks something..... work related accident... no accountability with regards to ensuring safe system of work... is there such a thing with alcolol/drug influence tolerated?
How do you monitor as to excessive drinking?
Possibly a very mixed state of affairs
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Posted By SteveD-M I would direct them to INDG 240.
'You have a general duty under the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 to ensure, as far as is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare of your employees. If you knowingly allow an employee under the influence of excess alcohol to continue working and this places the employee or others at risk, you could be prosecuted. Similarly, your employees are also required to take reasonable care of themselves and others who could be affected by what they do.'
Does what it says on the tin really..
I am assuming that you are using the risk assessment for his activity to lever compliance.
Steve
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer Well this is a tale, does he have any responsibility for the safety of others working in the club?? Has the management committee developed a policy??? Get the management committee to decide on a policy and then implement it.
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Posted By Tabs He needs to check the quality from time to time, and a lot of customers ask about the beers on sale - taste, quality etc. So I would probably expect the 'odd half'.
However, I seem to remember there being something in the food hygiene side that frowns on eating and drinking in a serving area (that's why a lot of landlords step round the bar to drink) but I am not familiar enough to be sure.
Many people drink at lunch times, and until you set a policy there is nothing to stop a person doing so until the point that they fall foul of the legislation quoted above. I would normally take the driving limit as acceptable - it is already accepted by society as being fine to drive on the roads with such. Running a bar can't be as hazardous, can it?
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Posted By Barry Cooper Thanks for all your responses, and will discuss with the committee. Trouble is I believe that you should not drink at all whilst at work. You should not drink and drive, full stop. If the employee has an accident, and has had a drink, could this have been a contributory cause. Also how would the insurers react?
Barry
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Posted By Rob T Hey Barry, stop and think for a minute. Why should your personal opinion that has no real foundation in H&S in the scenario you have described, impact on this individuals civil liberties? Just because we are H&S specialists it doesn't give us the right to willy nilly impose our own personal judgemental views on others! I often see people do things that I wouldn't but don't think it is right to suddenly inflict my sometimes more cautious views on them.
It's hard enough getting some people to take notice of some safety aspects which we take as commonsense - how do you think this bloke is going to take anything you say in future if you suddenly impose your (maybe considered puritanical?) views on him without fair argument and debate. As you can see from some of the other replies - you certainly don't have a consensus on this.
Maybe you could think again and just suggest a limit - two pints??
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Posted By Vimal Drinking at work is very danger.It affects our life, health as well as it's a big crime also. So avoid drinking while working. _____________________________ Vimal
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Posted By Vimal Drinking at work is very danger.It affects our life, health as well as it's a big crime also. So avoid drinking while working.Government should take the proper steps to ban the hot drinks. _____________________________ Vimal
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Posted By Barry Cooper Just to clarify although I personally do not believe in drinking at work, I also believe it can increase the risk of an accident at work. So when I undertake a risk assessment of the stewards tasks and activities, consumption of alcohol would in my view increase the likelihood of an accident occurring, and to me to reduce the risk, would be not to drink whilst at work
Barry
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