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Admin		#1 Posted : 05 November 2008 08:44:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Marcus74 The COSHH regs 9-2 specify that LEV testing/inspection should be carried out at least every 14 months. Is there a reason why its specified as 14 months as opposed to annually ? No particular reason for asking, just curious and can't seem to find the answer through Google etc.
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Admin		#2 Posted : 05 November 2008 08:50:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jonathan Breeze I asked the same of a HSE inspector once and he said he thought it was a pragmatic measure to allow for flexibility of the monitoring date. I.e. around annually - give or take a few months to allow for availability of the kit.
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Admin		#3 Posted : 05 November 2008 08:51:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Ian Futcher My understanding is exactly the same as Johnathon's above. Aim for a 12-month programme, and you have a little flexibility if there are equipment availability issues. Ian
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Admin		#4 Posted : 05 November 2008 08:52:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Ian Futcher oops - Jonathan any safety issues on multiple variations on name-spellings? ;-)
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Admin		#5 Posted : 05 November 2008 08:54:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Andrew Shaw As I understand it the reason for the 14 month interval is to allow for seasonal variations in any monitoring / measurments that may be taken, i.e. in the weather or in the seasonal nature of the work that may be done. Andy
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Admin		#6 Posted : 05 November 2008 08:56:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Marcus74 Thank you both for the replies Im sure I asked the question to our LEV inspector a few years ago and had a feeling the answer was something similar to the above but just wanted clarification. Regards, Marcus.
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Admin		#7 Posted : 05 November 2008 09:41:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Bob Youel remember 14 months is only a guide - the test etc period depends on the materials being extracted e.g. where equip extracts metal gasses the period is 14 months
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Admin		#8 Posted : 05 November 2008 10:16:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Paul Leadbetter Also, a 14 month interval ensures that, over a period, the systems are tested at different times of year. Systems can be less effective in the winter when all the doors and windows may be shut thus reducing the inwards flow of make up air to replace that extracted by the systems. Paul
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Admin		#9 Posted : 05 November 2008 10:48:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Paul Duell I was told that this harks back to the time when this kind of testing was scheduled during a factory's Easter shutdown (anyone remember those? :-) ). The 14-month is to allow for variations from year to year on the date of Easter.
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Admin		#10 Posted : 05 November 2008 12:38:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Winsley I agree with Paul Durell, thats the story I was told many years back, when first taking up the poisoned chalice of H&S management etc.
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Admin		#11 Posted : 05 November 2008 14:16:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Bob Youel sorry my last posting indicated 14 months re metal gases it should have been less than 14 months - read the ACOP for more info
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Admin		#12 Posted : 05 November 2008 14:29:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Martyn Hendrie I was told that it was 14 months because historically factories etc. shut down at Easter and this was when these examinations were carried out. As Easter is not a fixed date the 14 month requirement ensured that Easter always fell within the period.
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Admin		#13 Posted : 05 November 2008 14:36:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jonathan Breeze Question: Why would you monitor the effectiveness of LEV during non-standard conditions (i.e. Easter shutdown)? Okay I admit that it's not the same as WEL monitoring using dosimeters, but my experience is doing the whole thing as a job lot.
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Admin		#14 Posted : 05 November 2008 14:53:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Martyn Hendrie LEV was not the only thing examined every 14 months.Cranes/ pressure vessels and other things (some of which would require the plant to be shut down) were examined at Easter. 14 months appears to have been accepted as the "standard" examination interval. Most requirements for 14 monthly examination have now been replaced by the risk assessment approach
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Admin		#15 Posted : 05 November 2008 20:06:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Al.. The earliest date for Easter Sunday is March 22 and the latest is April 25 (being the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the vernal equinox). I too was handed this gem of information regarding the 14 month period for statutory examinations when I took my first steps into the world of health and safety many years ago. It sounds highly credible but I wonder if it is true. Does anyone know when the first mention was made in legislation of the 14 month period?
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Admin		#16 Posted : 05 November 2008 20:24:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By phil beresford I agree with all those above who said the 14 months is because of Easter moving - I heard that originally this was because the 4 day break was the only time steam boilers (in factories etc) were shut down and cooled and this was the only opportunity to examine them. Unless of course someone knows different ....
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Admin		#17 Posted : 05 November 2008 21:31:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By bill reilly a bit off the original post but there were boiler explosions acts as early as 1882.The Glasgow based Scottish Boiler Insurance company was formed in 1881 to insure boilers against explosion or collapse, and for the testing of new boilers by hydraulic pressure, Its first claim was paid to Henry Kennedy of Barrowfield Pottery Glasgow in 1882 after an explosion.
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