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#1 Posted : 06 November 2008 12:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By rashid Hello dear all? Can any one tell me in case of any fatality,death e.t.c why the police is instigating and put the HSE Advisor in hot water.Even though the company management has been inform before about that unsafe act,condition which will leads to serious accident but they hav,t take any action. The is happening in UAE if you are working in H&S and environment position. Because as i know the duty of HSE Advisor is only to advise management on HSE issues and managing HSE on site is the management responsibility. So i need help how to deal with this situation.Plz
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#2 Posted : 06 November 2008 12:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh Not sure what the situation is in your area but in UK the Police would be looking to see if any crime has been committed eg manslaughter or corporate manslaughter. In other words is someone has been so grossly negligent that someone has died, then an offence may have been committed. The safety manager would possibly know who was responsible for what. I would expect other managers and directors to be interviewed as well. Hope this helps.
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#3 Posted : 07 November 2008 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton Rashid: Yoou may need to read the following thread, where the difficulties you mention were also discussed: http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...=2&thread=38013&page=121 For those of us in the UK it is difficult to imagine a culture where the safety guy is normally considered first in line for buck stopping. Whilst the Safety person might be an advisor / persuader in the UK, in the UAE and some other parts of the world, he is seen as an officer. We might think he advises only (and thats what most English-language text books and training courses will say) BUT in other cultures - he is responsible when things go wrong. Be very careful that you understand the culture of the country / regime you are woorking in. Steve
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#4 Posted : 08 November 2008 21:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By F T D It seems to me that in certain areas of the world, including my country Ghana, the Safety Officer is used as a scape goat when such incidents occur. This is because even where local legislation exists and the countries in question are signatories to relevant ILO conventions, there is virtually no enforcement.This makes senior management think that Managing safety is an option they can either choose to take or leave.a lot of multinationals are not helping either, since rather than apply best industry practice they snidely turn a blind eye to these violations until Murphy's law is manifested.
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#5 Posted : 09 November 2008 08:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By stephen d clarke Hi Rashid, One other point in the UK H&S advisors wouldn't normally have the budget to make any changes even if they thought it necessary - management holds the purse strings and as a consequence is responsible when things go wrong, if they have been given competent advise. regards Steve
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#6 Posted : 09 November 2008 10:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By rashid Thanks to all espicailly to Mr.Stev for giving me courge and useful informations.
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