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#1 Posted : 13 November 2008 09:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By B Jolly
We are currently doing a construction which requires that we constantly sweep the road, it is a fairly busy single carriageway. The road sweeper goes back and forth constantly throughout the day but access needs to be available to the site for lorries doing the ground works etc so unable to barrier the whole area.

Question: Do we put traffic lights to control traffic, Do we just put signs out advising of road sweeping. Anyone got any ideas, or where I can look for ideas.

BJ
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#2 Posted : 13 November 2008 09:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh
As a motorist, I GET REALLY ANNOYED when endless miles of road are coned off, causing disruption, with not work apparently going on. Seems "OTT".

With my safety hat on.............what is the hazard? The slow moving vehicle? Has it got flashing lights etc? What about on of those lorries with the mobile big flashing arrow on which directs you to change lane 50m or so behind it? Or signs?

There are lots of slow moving vehicles (eg JBC, tractors) on our roads, which don't require road closure.

Are there suitable guidelines available, eg a BS? If not you have to use your judgement here. It must be difficult to balance road congestion and the safety of the operation. Of course, road closures and cones can contribute to accidents; I once had to stop due to a lane closure on the A1M; the guy behind me didn't.......... If there had been no lane closed, no accident!
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#3 Posted : 13 November 2008 09:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike B
A good starting point would be to follow this link:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tss/tsmanual/

I believe chapter is 8 is the relevant chapter.
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#4 Posted : 13 November 2008 09:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Savage
I have dealt with a similar issue, if you wish contact me, and we can have a chat.

Steve Savage
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#5 Posted : 13 November 2008 19:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP
Safety at Streetworks and Road Works Code of Practice Pages 66 and 67.

This type of work is referred to as 'moving or mobile works' which can be carried out on single carraigeway roads providing that the conditions of the code of practice are met. Due to the nature of the road mentioned appropriate signs and Stop/Go boards may be more appropriate as described in Chapter 8 of the Traffic Signs Manual (Operations).

www.streetworks.fsnet.co.uk
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#6 Posted : 14 November 2008 08:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By SteveD-M
Depends if you have TRIGGER driving the sweeper!!!
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#7 Posted : 14 November 2008 10:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton
Install a wheel wash at the exit from your site. If there isn't room - make room. If it wasn't planned, plan it. If it wasn't budgetted for - tough - and anyway, it'll be cheaper than the road sweeper!

Problem sorted - and no risk of being sued for depositing slippery materials on the public highway - which is itself an offence.

Cleaning it up afterwards just doesn't cut it for me - Road sweepers never ever seem to clear the mud grit and rubble from the best line for motorcycles though any bend or corner.

Steve
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#8 Posted : 20 November 2008 21:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bramall
Agree with Steve in this case.

The best solution is to prevent dirt from getting onto the road in the first place.

Sometimes this is unavoidable and in these cases we need to consider sweeping as you say.

Chapter 8, Safety at Streetworks may apply depending on the classification of the road, but if we think logically, a road sweeper is something like a slow tractor cutting grass verges or hedges, in terms of speed, therefore, if it remains visible, conspicuous, flashing beacons... why not use 1 signs i.e. sweeoing for 1 mile or whatever distance is appropriate.

DrB
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