Posted By graeme12345 Roy, regs, if in any doubt, "assume" it is present and not just chrysotile. Write up a procedure for anyone who works on the buildings for the accidental discovery of asbestos, basically state that if anyone working finds material that they are unsure of , stop work and see the manager in charge of the work, they could then get a sample taken for analysis and you could then plan your work around it or get it removed.

Posted By Amandac Roy Agree with CW all your 'new builds' should have a H&S file in accordance with the CDM Regs 1994. This should tell you the building materials used and there locations. Older builds then should have a survey in order for you to manage the maintenance and repair aspects of the building to prevent exposure to ACMs.

Posted By Rodger Alan Ker You are slightly on the wrong track. Your main duty will be under Regulation 4 "The Duty to Manage" of the Control of Asbestos Regulations 2006. This does not implicitly state a requirement to carry out a survey, but it will be pretty difficult to implement satisfactorily out without one! If you e-mail me direct I have some notes on "The Duty to Manage"

Posted By Robert K Lewis Dave W Which is almost word for word what I would expect all properly constructed H&S File would state under a heading of asbestos. Have you any thoughts on these ACMs post 2000 and does UKATA have a view on whether we need to include such concerns within awareness and other training? In general the thread original post there are a large number of variable properties under management and clearly the overall asbestos management plan for the organisation should provide for these. If it was a one off post 2000 structure I would leave it at the H&S file statement. Bob

Posted By GeoffB4 ACMs if fine, and so is AIB (but took a bit of thought). But what is UKATA and ASI? Or do you guys prefer to talk in a language unintelligble to the rest of us?

Posted By Decimomal RoyPB is a 'residential property manager looking after a number of residential developments' All the literature that I can find talks about the Duty to Manage Asbestos in 'Non Domestic' Premises. Assuming that contractors are potentially at risk from Asbestos and ACM's when carrying out repairs and so forth in 'Domestic' premises such as residential developments where can I find the definitive on this?

Posted By Rodger Alan Ker The original posting from Roy is obviously very brief and lacking in detail which makes it difficult to respond fully. It is absolutely right that there is no legal "duty to manage" (DTM) for domestic properties. One of the problems with the 2002 CAWR that was not addressed with the 2006 CAR changes was this definition of "domestic properties" and the DTM. If you or I live in a house we have no DTM. However if we wanted a new bathroom or kitchen installed and our property was of a certain age, a competent builder might require assurance the the areas he was about to disturb were asbestos free. Roy states "I am a residential property manager". This makes it difficult. For blocks of flats, for example, the DTM has always applied to the "common areas" of the property, but not the individual residences. If an individual occupant wished to have a new bathroom/kitchen as above, there would be no DTM on the individual. However, in my opinion, if the landlord or the property manager was to undertake the replacement of all the bathrooms and kitchens, CDM and the DTM would apply. I believe that the key to the requirement is that if you are making money (ie charging rent) you have a DTM. Comments please. Speak to us Roy!

Posted By Chris L 2000 is a defensible assumption for management, however caution should always be maintained.... I.e. if you have genuine worries about a given material, do get it checked.