Posted By Richard Altoft It is understandable that HSE only refer to the statistics they themselves hold however I fully support your call that those organisations that represent or which can influence occupational safety as a whole, that includes IOSH and BSC as well as the Government should use total figures for occupational deaths and injuries, ill health etc. Others such as RoSPA should perhaps go further and give data on all "accidents" incl home, at school and during leisure activities. Not easy but we do need to know the full picture on losses and on enforcements such as road deaths, marine etc etc. where limits must be drawn because information is less than reliable such as vessels not registered in UK then limits should be stated.Better data and better use of it should in turn lead to better use of scarce resources for controls such as more police on roads and more inspections of railways and less spent on lifeguards for paddling pools R