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Posted By Victoriana
We have just been approached by an organisation to carry out an NVQ level 2 for our forklift truck operators. They say that because it involves and assessment of FLT operators skills it provides the equivalent of FLT refresher training qualifications.
I started to get a bit concerned when I found out the guy doing it is a NVQ assessor but is not qualified by one of the accredited training bodies as a FLT trainer. However I understand it is funded under "train to gain" and therefore we would get the "refresher training" free.
Does anyone have experience of this and does it provide training/refresher training meeting the requirements of L117?
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Posted By Martin Hartland
I've never come across this before but i can give you my opinion.
If he says he's providing forklift "training", refesher or otherwise, then he should provide you with proof that he has undertaken a instructors course recognised by one of the accrediting bodies listed in L117.
Personally i would avoid.
Martin
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Posted By GaryC40
I would stick to LANTRA accredited instructors.
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Posted By Penfold
This is NVQ level 2 in plant operations. It involves a basic assessment of a plant operators understanding and practical operating skills of a particular type of machinary(not necessarily an FLT).
To deliver the award, assessor must be qualified to "A1" standard and "occupationally competent" in the particular type of plant they will deliver. They DO NOT need to be qualified Fork Lift instructors (e.g. RTITB, ITTSAR) However, a qualified Fork Lift Instructor will make a good assessor once he/she is trained to A1 standard.
Some companies are cashing in on this. They will offer free refresher training knowing they will cash in on the NVQ assessment paid by train to gain. I know this, because I was offered this type of work as a qualified instructor(ITSSAR).
An NVQ assessment and refresher training are completely different.
What you must ensure is that the refresher training is carried out by a qualified Forklift Instructor (see L117) and an appropriate "certificate of training" issued with the instructors accredited number on it. If in doubt, phone the accrediting organisation.
Hope this helps
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Posted By Penfold
Gary, I don't get your response. Why only Lantra?
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Posted By GaryC40
Just based on the high quality of instruction i have experiened over the years from several providers.
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Posted By Victoriana
My thanks to all of the respondents, particularly Penfold as you have confirmed my concerns about this form of training were justified.
I will certainly stick with accredited trainers.
Regards
Victoriana
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Posted By RP
I absolutly agree with Penfold on this.
Training and Assessment are two different things.
An assessor will assess a candidate to a given set of standards, if the candidate does not meet such standards by demonstating competence they will identify and training needs or further experience before undertaking assessment again.
A trainer is just that and should be able to justify their existance with an approved body, such as Lantra or CPCS.
An NVQ is assessed over a period of time and on sevral occaisions to ensure continueing competence, one assessment will not do this.
Further to this, if they are to be assessed as competent, training in whatever form does not come into it.
To meet legal requirements under PUWER, etc, it is nessessary for employers to ensure that those who operate equipment are trained and competent.
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