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#1 Posted : 10 March 2009 11:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony McIntosh
Right or wrong?
In an industry where you may need extra labour at very short notice, what is everyone's thoughts on using a labour agency who will train and induct individuals before arriving to site. The induction is site specific. This allows a bank of people to be trained and inducted so they can arrive as and when they are needed.
I can see the pro's and con's, but i'm not confident that this would cut it with the HSE if the worse happened???
Personally i'm against it
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#2 Posted : 10 March 2009 11:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By safetyamateur
Tony, have you got control of training content * competency of agency and is there some kind of confirmation of understanding?

If you've got these, it could be irrelevant who actually delivers the training
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#3 Posted : 10 March 2009 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charlie0538
Having just gone through the exact same thing. I was advised to get confirmation of responsibilities so that if the worst happened at least you have a diffinitive line drawn between you and the agency.

There is still a duty to ensure that whom ever comes onto your site that they are trained, inducted etc and if you are not happy with what you see then at least you have the ability to rectify the situation.

Hope this helps.

Charlie
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#4 Posted : 10 March 2009 12:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By SteveD-M
Tony
Was part of a project a few years back in the transport industry where we were providing a safety passport for agency Drivers. The HSE backed the scheme. Following the same idea. Although funding was an issue the principle is sound.
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#5 Posted : 10 March 2009 12:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony McIntosh
Yes, I have full control of training content, and the training would be delivered by professional trainers.....but I think this is just paying lip service to inductions.
Even if I were given the h&s training materials, how could I (realistically and properly) train individuals to work for another company on another site?
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#6 Posted : 10 March 2009 12:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By safetyamateur
Tony, I guess it depends on that content again.
The detail it goes into is whatever detail is appropriate, right?

The generic info might be 'report to reception'. The specific would be a map or a photo of where it is and how to get there.

I'm probably being a bit obtuse but that's where I'm coming from.
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#7 Posted : 10 March 2009 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
As has been alluded to, a generic type of training is eminently sensible. However, where a specific site induction is required it is obviously no help at all and could be dangerous.
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#8 Posted : 10 March 2009 13:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By safetyamateur
I suppose that's the thing. If you end up having to use a lot of supplementary info, it might as well be done at site and by the site controller.
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