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Posted By Barry Cooper
Good evening all
Some advice please
We are closing our manufacturing site, and will have 24/7 security (2 guards at all times) on site until the site is sold for redevelopment, which could take up to 2 years.
The decommissioning process will involve the sewerage system being shut down.
I am considering providing security with a portable toilet with Hot water fed from a tank. This will be maintained weekly by the hire company.
One security guard is unhappy washing his cup in the hot water fed from the tank, so I will maintain a cold water supply to the existing sink, but this will not have a pipe to drain, and will be sealed.
Would my proposal be acceptable under the welfare regulations
Barry
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Posted By SNS
Presumably they will have a portakabin / office / room available in addition to the portaloo. Equipped with a kettle for hot drinks? Ask him if he is more comfortable washing his cup in water boiled in the kettle?
Or issue disposable cups.
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Posted By Bob Youel
whats wrong with providing proper welfare - you would want it and proper facilities are very cheap today
This issue makes me scream as office staff & similar still get all the facilities whereas others do not - are we still in the 60's or even the 20's?
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Posted By Barry Cooper
Bob
The guards have a heated/air conditioned building, with kettle, toaster, microwave oven, but no drainage system, unless we install a septic tank, which would not be cost effective, they will also have drinkable water but no where to dispose of it, except may be in a bucket. The portable toilet would have washing facility installed.
Their working conditions are very good, and much better than those for our "office staff", which I am one, and who have all lost their jobs.
The idea of disposable cups is a thought. Thanks
Barry
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Posted By D H
Barry - according to the regs you need to supply hot and cold water for washing etc.
Which will include washing food dishes after meals?
As far as cleaning cups only - let them wash their cups in boiled water from the kettle - or tap - then decant into a bucket then down the nearest storm drain at the end of shift if it is only water.
Be aware that you need permission to "drop" to a sewer - but would a bucket per shift not be "reasonably practicable" in your situation?
Dave
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Posted By David Passmore
How about considering all disposable utensils? i.e. plates, cutlery, microwave bowls and of course the cups which has already been suggested - these are also more hygienically compatible for the situation, however, it is important to dispose of used utensils/waste food etc to prevent vermin/smells etc. Incidentally, has this situation been considered bearing in mind the site has or is in the process of being decomissioned as it is likely the local authority will have terminated their rubbish disposal services from the site?
I am unsure of what type of tank is supplying the water, but you can obtain large electric wall mounted or free standing boilers which keep a constant supply of water at a pre - determined temperature and these could be used for both the provision of water, washing or beverages.
On the face of it, it would seem that the security guard in question is perhaps being a little inflexible at best.
Regarding the disposal of the water, this must surely be a negligible amount if disposable cutlery etc as described above is used as suggested earlier.
Certainly in my experience, personal hygiene was certainly not an issue with certain night security officers, however, that is another story!
Of course they are entitled to reasonable welfare facilities, but under the circumstances, a little bit of give by by the security guy in question would be helpful to your situation.
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Posted By Barry Cooper
I have found a couple of companies that hire out waste storage tanks, which hold approx 1000L, and are emptied regularly. They are approx 8' x 6' x 18", and will allow us to pipe in the toilet and sink. Does anyone have any experience of these
Barry
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