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MSc. Safety and Risk Managment - University of Starthclyde
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Posted By Garry
Hi,
Just looking for some advise and comments on this; I would like to further my education and job prospects by doing an Masters Degree through distance learning. I came across the above course in the IOSH magazine recently. Has anyone any experience of this course? It's IOSH approved, but, does the University/qualification carry much clout in the real world?
I have wasted my time in a second rate University before, and I don't need another piece of paper from a "basket weaving college". Any information on this would be welcome.
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Posted By John Fraser
Garry
Why don't you do the NEBOSH Dip instead, rather than an MSC.
NEBOSH Dip is what employers want nowadays.
John
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Posted By Garry
Hi John,
Just to let you know where I am at - I am a science graduate and have also completed the Irish equivalent of the NEBOSH cert (Dip. SSHW - UCD). Maybe its overkill on my behalf but I'd really like to get into management eventually. My current employer is not exactly interested in furthering my skills so I'd like to take matters into my own hands. Maybe I'd be better off taking a business managment course to strengthen. Any advice would be greatly appreciated - I just feel things are a bit stagnant at the moment.
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Posted By Kenneth Patrick
Garry,
If you can not find out for yourself that Strathclyde is not a basket weaving college then perhaps your are not ready to study at such a prestigious institution. But in the meantime I would suggest that you should not even hint at such insinuations.
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Posted By John Fraser
Garry
If you are thinking of working in the UK, the NEBOSH Dip is the most widely recognisable qual in the UK.
John
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Posted By A Campbell
garry,
I knew of a couple of people who undertook the courses there... they are doing very well now too!
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Posted By Garry
Kenneth,
Please read my post - I am not taking a pop at Strathclyde University. The hard truth is, some third level institutions are better than others and I learned this the hard way. This is the very first time I have enquired about the institution. It is my experience that the best people to consult in these situations are the ex-students, not the university itself.
Maybe you are in a position to answer my question and highlight the merits of this institution? I'm assuming that this is your alma mater..
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Posted By Garry
Posted by A Campbell on Friday, 03 April 2009 at 15:28
garry,
I knew of a couple of people who undertook the courses there... they are doing very well now too!
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This is what I was hoping to hear!
Much appreciated
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Posted By warderic
Garry, I have the diploma and a MSc from Leicester University in H&S Management. The NEBOSH diploma is a very good and a recognised qualification. However, from experience my career took off when I got the MSc. Yes employers recognise the diploma, but all employers recognise a degree as being a top qualification. When a MSc is on your CV you stand out. Apart from that, studying for a MSc takes you in to a completely different level of H&S. When I first started I though I was on the wrong course, its that different. At the end of the course, 2 years in my case, I had a completely different outlook on H&S and a far better understanding of the bigger picture. My advice: check out the University and go for it.
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Posted By Garry
Re: MSc. Safety and Risk Managment - University of Starthclyde
Posted by warderic on Friday, 03 April 2009 at 15:47
Very interesting response. What is the exact name of the MSc. you completed? I can see 3 options on the website available for distant learning. Also, can you elaborate on the your progression after graduating, if you don't mind i.e. what sort of doors did it open for you? Thanks
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Interestingly even many Higher Academic institutions do not recognise the differences in many qulifications for OHS and place the Diploma at the top of the academic tree. Mind you there are those who think RSP still exisits as a set of post-nomials.
Bob
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Posted By warderic
Garry: Title = MSc in H&S Management. Doors opened = Progressed from H&S officer to Group H&S Manager for large PLC company. It goes without saying that the responsibilities are far greater but so are the financial rewards and benefits.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
The post-grad Certificate in SARM from Strathclyde is recognised as a CMIOSH level qualification.
That should tell you something?
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Posted By GaryC40
I am currently in my first year working towards MSc with Strathclyde (PGc) The reason i decided on Strathclyde was because of the way they teach HS & Risk. Nebosh is way to prescriptive, far too much read, learn, memorise, regurgitate, pass and forget for me. The way coursework is taught at Strathclyde is much more rewarding and challenging. However beware, the programme will stretch you to the absolute limit, it is very demanding. I have discussed this before and do not want to get into an argument about what is the better route (no write or wrong) but i will say this -people who think that Nebosh is the only way to go are very much misguided.
I totally respect people with the Nebosh dip, however in MY view it is not the best method to learn and explore the management of health, safety and risk.
As for the institution of Strathclyde, i would suggest that it is regarded very highly in many fields.
PS, the moderator of the MSc programme was the chief examiner for Nebosh for 12 years and is a fellow of IOSH. As i understand it, the reason he created the course was because Nebosh Dip lacked somewhat in imagination and creativity.
In saying that, i personally cannot wait to I'm finished so i can regain my social life!
Take the route that suits you, not the one you feel obliged to.
Good luck
GC
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan
Hi Garry
I am currently doing post grad cert with University of Strathclyde. I have recently completed UCD cert,( health and safety), national diploma in training and education with NUI galway and an LLB with university of London. You will find Strathclyde very good, and in my view the best of all the universities that i have encountered. There is an awful lot of work involved in my study so I guess the Msc would also involve a lot of work, but it will be worth it.
My advice to you, do the MSC if you can. It is a valuable qualification, and this in Ireland is really what you need now. Too many in Ireland have the diploma. Strathclyde is really a very good university.
Seamus
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Posted By Gus
Hi Garry
I'm studying my MSc with University of Sunderland, so i can't comment on Strathclyde.... I can tell you that an MSc will stretch you intellectually and academically beyond the NEBOSH or other Diploma level, that's why they only give partial exemptions for diplomas and I cant see any way it cant improve career opportunities
Don't underestimate the workload or the challenge, but go for it!!
Good luck
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Posted By Garry
Thanks to all for your helpful msg's and e-mails. It's clear that the MSc. involves a substantial work-load but the rewards are obviously there. Now, it's time for some mental preparation ..
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