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#1 Posted : 09 April 2009 11:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Spiers Is statement about blame game, common sence and responsibility sustainable with the present civil structure ? HSE Quote - Myth: People don’t have to take any responsibility for their own health and safety Employers have a duty to protect workers and the public from dangers caused by their work - and HSE is committed to making sure they do that. But health and safety isn’t entirely someone else's responsibility. We all have a duty to keep ourselves safe, by co-operating with safety measures and not putting ourselves or others in danger. This is just common sense - something we all use every day. It's important that we aren’t put at risk by other people’s actions, but if we ignore our own responsibilities, real risks can get missed. Playing the blame game doesn't keep people safe - better to rely on common sense and co-operation.
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#2 Posted : 09 April 2009 12:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Swis Section 7 of HSWA It shall be the duty of every employee while at work-- (a) to take reasonable care for the health and safety of himself and of other persons who may be affected by his acts or omissions at work
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#3 Posted : 09 April 2009 14:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose Alan I sort of know where you are coming from but I guess the HSE aren't really concerned with the 'civil structure' (I assume you mean people taking an action for personal injury) Same goes for S7 - it is not concerned with civil liability and a breach of S7 would not give rise to a civil liability either Phil
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#4 Posted : 09 April 2009 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Spiers Phil. yes no one can sensibly argue against this months myth but my question for debate is do civil cases and fear of them create just the oposite to sensible risk assessments.
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#5 Posted : 09 April 2009 17:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sally Only if we as the professionals let them.
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#6 Posted : 09 April 2009 19:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Spiers Sally, how do we as professionals stop, assuming we want to, a civil system that fans fear of compensation for trivial injuries,that bans things because insurance is too expensive or not available and therefore creates risk aversion.
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#7 Posted : 09 April 2009 22:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By GaryC40 Personally Alan - i never rely on common sense anymore (in others)- i have found to great cost that one mans common sense is another mans lunacy. We all have a responsibility for the safety of ourselves and others, whether in the workplace or not - the key is sensible but effective risk management - surely if your actions are safe and considered then its a win win situation for all, thus cancelling out your theory of... "if we ignore our own responsibilities, real risks can get missed" My point is that, if we have to ignore our responsibilities then there is something inherently wrong with the system not the individual. GC GC
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