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#1 Posted : 15 April 2009 18:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
I often find bricklayers working at height, approx 1 metre off the ground, operating on trestes and boards with no fall protection.

When questioned they always go to the "this is how we've always done it" excuse and ask me to recommend something practical and cheap.

Does anyone know the answer to that question?

I'm talking about shopfitting not major construction works, I know it makes no difference as far as WAH is concerned.

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#2 Posted : 15 April 2009 19:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant
Realistically the solution is to use a trestle with a guard-rail along the back. They are available from several suppliers, but of course they cost a lot more than a couple of planks. On a construction site with someone else doing tube-n-fitting, you can make your own - but in your case they'd need to buy or hire something.
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#3 Posted : 16 April 2009 03:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank E. Davidson
Excuse?
Cough, ahem. Their employers have probably been too tight thus far to provide them with appropriate equipment. In fact they have probably had to pay for their trestles out of their own pocket.
Provide them with the proper equipment to do their job.
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#4 Posted : 16 April 2009 09:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Carolyn L
This may be of interest as a "quick fix" solution http://www.staybills.com/assembly.html

Alternatively Razordeck produce a self erecting tower which is very easy to use and move round and can be adjusted for working a varying heights http://www.razordeck.co.uk/

Carolyn
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#5 Posted : 16 April 2009 09:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Crim

We have some concrete finishers on site and they are using trestle boards for much the same thing. No more than 1 metre in height. I did not consider it a safety issue to be perfectly honest...falling into wet concrete, but each to their own.

Ray
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#6 Posted : 16 April 2009 12:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant
Raymond - if you thumb through the HSE inspector notes for the WAHR you'll find working from unguarded trestles, even a few feet up, is a prohibition notice offence. It's not the height of the fall, but the way people fall - they're most likely to tip backwards and land head-first, so spinal injuries are expected.

You can have unguarded trestles on site for other purposes (carrying materials, etc.) but in terms of standing on them, as the construction press headlines said back in 2005; "trestles are now banned".
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#7 Posted : 16 April 2009 13:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By al wood
trestles banned?

aint it down to good old risk assessment?
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#8 Posted : 16 April 2009 15:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Dave

Thanks, I just knew someone would make a similar comment. However, I am not aware of the PN you refer to but I am aware of the following HSE advice:

'Below 2 metres, assess risk, take pragmatic approach. Sensible precautions which reflect actual risk'. I assessed the risks.

'Low trestle eg 1 metre high, with grass surface surface below, may justify no fall fall prevention/protection as risk of injury is unlikely'. Wet concrete, injury unlikely.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/falls/downloads/1and2.pdf

By the way, we don't ban the use of ladders either on our site - 'Encourage the appropriate use of ladders'.

Ray
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#9 Posted : 16 April 2009 16:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
Interesting responses so far!

The bricky's in question are approx 1.5 m above a flat concrete surface. Hard - not wet - concrete so risk of injury on contact.

They have in front of them a block wall they have built, so no danger there, only if they step back.

I've looked at the beb sites as above and see Staybills could be the answer but not Razor Deck.

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#10 Posted : 17 April 2009 10:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F
How is it that the higher someone is working the easier the solutions seem to be.
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