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#1 Posted : 28 April 2009 08:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By s_jesu Hi, One of our welder who has diabetics was denied to drink glucose water which is been provided to all workers as there is a risk of dehydration. please justify the act.. Regards, jesu@topaz
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#2 Posted : 28 April 2009 08:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By bereznikov Apologies in advance for my ignorance, but: Is it mandatory for the workers to drink the glucose water? - if so, why? Can you not provide him with a suitable alternative drink? I think consulting the welder in question about why, and his views, medical needs etc etc will be your best starting point. bereznikov
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#3 Posted : 28 April 2009 08:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Patrick George Hi, It is true that person with diabetes cannot consume glucose. There are other alternative rehydration fluids available in the market for diabetic persons.
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#4 Posted : 28 April 2009 09:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By nigelhammond I am not a medic but my daughter has type 1 diabetes so I know quite a bit about it. Diabetes is a name that covers two complex conditions - Type 1 diabetes which is an autoimmune disease that kills off the insulin producing cells in the pancreas and tends to start in children- possibly due to a virus and genetic make up. Then there is type 2 diabetes which usually starts in adults and is usually but not always associated with lifestyle causes. Type 2s still make insulin but it is not effective. Type 2s can simply be altering their lifestyle, may be on tablets or may be on insulin. Where as type 1s are always on insulin. Next thing to point out is that you can't simply say "they cannot drink glucose". Depends on the situation. If a person with type 1 diabetes or insulin dependent type 2 has low blood sugar and is heading towards a hypo then they NEED glucose. If on the other hand their blood sugars are going high then they need to avoid glucose or if they have an insulin pump take more insulin. I appreciate everyone here is meaning well but I'm afraid saying "diabetics cannot have glucose" is a very dangerous thing to say because you could be taking away an emergency cure which results in a seizure and worse. Please consult medical advice about this - and of course the individual. Your approach needs to fit the condition, how well it is controlled and should be based on proper advice. I also suggest you look at the Diabetes UK web site which has a great video explaining diabetes.
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#5 Posted : 28 April 2009 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By s_jesu Thanks gentlemen, I will recommend some rehydration solution for workers with diabetics. jesu@topaz
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#6 Posted : 28 April 2009 12:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyr Excellent post Nigel, I to have a type 1 diabetic family member and have lost count of the times I have had to try to correct other peoples misconceptions of this condition. I'm afraid that as an "unseen condition", type 1 diabetes will continue to be a mystery to others who have neither medical knowledge or personal experience. My family member is currently at a UK university and is trying to convince the authorities there of the need to be able to take glucose tablets into a two hour exam, they only allow a bottle of plain water to be taken in. So even our great seats of learning actually still need to learn.
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#7 Posted : 28 April 2009 12:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By clairel garyr, To be fair can you expect people to be knowledgeable about diabetes if it doesn't affect their lives? There are many medical conditions that affect many diferent people and so you can't expect everyone to be knowledgeable about every condition. How much do you know about epilepsy or people with kidney failure or those with heart conditions.......come to think of it how many people can sign? As it happens I know a little about type 1 diabetes becuase my nephew has it. Some great advice given. But lets not put down those who don't know about the illness.
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#8 Posted : 28 April 2009 12:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyr Clairl. I wasn't aware that I was putting people down, if thats the way it reads I can only apologise to anyone offended. To answer your question re epilepsy, kidney failure and heart disease, as an ex paramedic and still a volunteer responder, probably a shade more than the average person in the street, as to signing well you have me there. I was merely pointing out that even great institutions still need to consult their own advisers before putting in place blanket decisions without fully understanding the potential implications of their actions. I dont post here very often and i have just remembered the reasons why
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#9 Posted : 28 April 2009 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By bereznikov Clairel, I have read garyr's reposnse and i did not interpretate it as "putting others down". With regards to the query, i think the best course of action would start off with a conversation with the affected empployee. bereznikov
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#10 Posted : 28 April 2009 14:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose I suffer from the dreaded 'D' as well. I wasn't quite sure if the post was about someone being denied the drink or declining it. However, Nigel posted a lucid and sensible response that I concur with. People who suffer from either T1 or T2 diabetes are generally very aware of their condition and the symptoms of a 'hypo' or 'hyper' - always good practice though to let the people that you work with know as well. Phil
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