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#1 Posted : 11 May 2009 16:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By mark26 Hi everyone I was wondering if anybody has any gory pictures of real life accidents, or know were I can get a hold of them. I am working in Qatar on a large construction project that has many different nationalities. The pictures will be used for tool box talks and STARRT meetings. It is sometimes difficult to get your point across and I believe this will help me achieve this. Could you email me or leave details of were I can find these pictures.
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#2 Posted : 11 May 2009 16:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System I would also be interested in this.
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#3 Posted : 11 May 2009 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell I would caution some of this type of use showing trauma..... warning prior to showing may be a good idea and will give individual choice... in this day of political correctness there may well be some discussion as to employers forcing people to see such media?
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#4 Posted : 11 May 2009 17:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright Do they have political correctness in Qatar?
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#5 Posted : 11 May 2009 19:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Toe Check out this person whom lost three fingers in a pizza making machine. Good message I think.
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#6 Posted : 12 May 2009 00:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Wai Ming WU see whether the pictures are useful for you: http://poetry.rotten.com/meat-grinder-ii/
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#7 Posted : 12 May 2009 08:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By SNS There are some industry training DVDs around with such images, Safety Media are one company who are able to supply them - Google will give you alternatives.. I have no relationship with the firm other than as a paying customer. Regards, S
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#8 Posted : 12 May 2009 11:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By NJS I just looked at the pictures on Rotten.com, not nice. how do you get your arm so far into the machine? what was he thinking. It really made mincemeat of him (sorry), and what a miSTEAKa to makea (again sorry)
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#9 Posted : 12 May 2009 14:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Johnmully This site shows the consequences and treatment of high pressure injection injuries: http://emedicine.medscap...om/article/1241999-media
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#10 Posted : 12 May 2009 14:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker Be a bit careful you don't overdo these. Somewhere...... I read a report that suggested people remember the picture but forget the message.
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#11 Posted : 12 May 2009 18:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By mark26 Thanks all for the response.
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#12 Posted : 12 May 2009 22:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Clarke-Scholes CMIOSH Be careful to assess your audience too. I had a case recently when an ex-army safety man used a training video based around an army guy who served a term in Iraq and then got killed on a building site in Britain. The point was good but it turned out that part of the workforce were Muslims from the former Yugoslavian area, Serbia, I think. Their over-riding impression of the video was that images of westerners firing live ammunition at Muslims was not a particularly useful image for them. Fair point, we had to agree. That said, you will have e-mail shortly!
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#13 Posted : 13 May 2009 10:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter John Orridge I Have 100s of construction and health & Safety pictures taken while visiting sites. As I'm Retired I will happily pass thes and any other training material on. Email me with details of what you need or ring my mobile 07710 438602 Peter
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#14 Posted : 13 May 2009 22:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Hi Mark 26, I was working at Killroot P/STN (Northern Ireland)where AMEC were doing a lot of work. On site there were E/Europeans & Filipinos on site, a mixture of different construction workers who watched a safety presentation. AMEC & there safety officer brought a guy on site who had been seriously burnt whilst unconscious lying on top of oxy-fuel pipes due to an accident.The presentation he did had real gory images of his injury and explains how this could have been prevented. Even the foreign workers understood what he was saying through the images alone. If you contact him he maybe able to help. He gives out cards for interested parties, the web address is www.cbsafetyserviceltd.co.uk
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#15 Posted : 14 May 2009 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Passmore A Campbell is correct. Depending on the method you intend to adopt to distribute or display gory images, it is advisable to pre - warn your audience or intended recipients. I had a manager complain to me in a H&S meeting relating to an image I produced which highlighted how 'incompatible' a fork truck was to the human foot. I was having difficulty in convincing management that they were not immune from injuries within working areas of the site when wearing unsuitable footwear - even for brief periods. The manager in question - built like the proverbial - was apparently very very squeamish and took exception to the images. The positive side of this however, that I did get the point over very well - but be careful! DP
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#16 Posted : 14 May 2009 11:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac Mark Although gore can definitley be used as a influencing factor. I have found how the family is affected to be a considerable influencing factor. Although I guess it would take a little more time to get the message across but the resulting impact may be worth considering. I had a mother (whom I knew personally) come into one of our sites to give a talk, her son died on a construction site a few years previously, he and his girlfriend were about to move into their new house within weeks. She talked about how the loss of her son affected her and their family's life. The closing scene was a picture of a lovely wee baby boy, the son the poor lad never got to meet. It really provided the information in a method that really hit home with all the men we had attend. Just an option but one worth considering as it had a long lasting impact on the men. Here I am years on, and I still have men on-site say it still sticks in their mind today. Lee
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#17 Posted : 15 May 2009 12:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Chapman Mark I worked in Qatar for many years & know the issues with the multinational workforce well. I also have a collection of photos. contact me offline at davychapman@mail2world.com & I will forward them.
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#18 Posted : 15 May 2009 12:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell There used to be a video called 'remember Charlie' that gave a personal account of disregarding H&S rules and how affected his future employment and personal life due to horrific burns sustained.
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#19 Posted : 15 May 2009 12:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Fraser A Campbell How long was the Remember Charlie Broad casted. I seem to remember seeing something similar a long time ago and it was scary then. John
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#20 Posted : 16 May 2009 08:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By jom As an alternative to gory pictures, may I suggest the e-bulletins produced by Worksafe British Columbia http://www.worksafebc.com/ They publish very brief summaries of accidents (often in the forestry & timber industries). No pictures, yet each item is itself a "word picture". The reader is left with a clear vision of what occurred. Subscribe to their service. John.
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#21 Posted : 16 May 2009 12:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48 Such approaches are only any use if you really feel that your audience doesn't already know the potential outcomes of their behaviour. Otherwise there is no surprise and little effect for the risk of traumatising people. They may have limited benefit for health related risks where people may not really understand what dermatitis looks and feels like. You can use pictures of positive life style stuff, sports, family picnic, a kids 18th birthday, meeting your first grandchild, seeing a daughter getting married, active holidays, a pilgrimage etc to paint a picture of what can be easily be lost or become very difficult to achieve. Then have a simple message that says we don't want you to lose any of those opportunities. Have some back up examples of people who have lost those opportunities from accidents that can happen on your patch. A much, much stronger hook in any culture around the world. How many of us have watched the tv ads for drink driving? Gory enough for you? Longer term impact on the target audience? Relevance to those who don't drink?
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#22 Posted : 19 May 2009 09:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Juls I agree with Lee Mac, gory pictures don't always make the point you want and people remember them over the message. I think it can be more effective to show the impact it has had on the person's life (if they've survived) or on their families. The May 09 issue of SHP magazine makes that point very well p37 with the article on Ian Whittingham. A good picture (or pictures) can help to punctuate your presentation but overuse of it tends to turn people off in my experience. I've used Vocam in the past, their PPE Dvd is pretty graphic.
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#23 Posted : 19 May 2009 10:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell John, It was some time ago but always sticks in my mind... http://www.charliemorecr...opping/shopexd.asp?id=63 Other types of training I do is taping up welders gloves and asking people to open a can of drink (not easy!), also creating temporary blindness to let people see how they could cope. These things tend to be a practical element rather than showing pictures.... almost as boring as CSI post mortem style shows!
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#24 Posted : 04 June 2009 21:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Hello all, the use of gory pictures in the correct context in preventing gory injuries / fatalities in the work place, with a warning from the H&S officer can only be a good thing for the benefit of all concerned. Surely. Or do we wait for it to really happen again? in order to get another real life injury photo for the album of memories? which number will be I've lost count. Your views from both injured & non injured individuals, would be much appreciated thanking you all.
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