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Posted By barlowj
Is anybody aware of any system which would replace the need for a lifequard at a swimming pool? One of our clients has asked if we could investigate, they think that there is some sort of camera system which would negate the requirementfor a "physical lifeguard" - I'm very sceptical!
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Posted By ScotsAM
So that they can watch somebody drown?
I'd be very sceptical too.
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
I have heard of a camera system that looks for stationary objects on the bottom of the pool but I think this is to complement rather than replace lifeguard cover.
Paul
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Posted By Ian M Clarke
Just dealing with this issue for one of my clients but the other way around - i.e. non supervised pool, needing a lifeguard due to unaccompanied children (8 or over).
Basically get your hands on HSG179 Health & Safety in Swimming Pools and this goes through the whole process where unsupervised pools are totally acceptable. Also look as ISRM guidance
My client (private members pool) has CCTV covering the whole pool, adults requested not to be swimming on their own but if so to phone reception (pool-side phone available) and there are other controls as well.
Also, do a search of the forum as this has been discussed before.
Cheers
Ian
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Posted By Dave Merchant
Underwater cameras are widely used in the US, and are not a replacement for a lifeguard. They are there simply because in some lighting conditions it's impossible for a poolside attendant to see the bottom.
The reason you can't automate the process is that, unlike on dry land, an unconscious body in a pool doesn't stop moving. In fact, it moves quite like it did when it was awake, so only a trained human can tell the difference quickly enough. "Not waving, but drowning" is beyond machine vision at the moment.
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Posted By Terry H
Hi, i work in a leisure centre with a swimming pool. There are a few automated systems available. I have looked at one called 'Cylops'which is a type of montion detector which will raise an alarm once it picks up an object which is motionless for 10 seconds. They are no substitute for life guards, but can act as another control measure. Normal considered when you have a very deep pool over 3.5 meteres, where other factors play a large part e; glare. Hope this helps. P.S They are very expensive.
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Posted By NJS
A system that alerts users when a body has been motionless for 10 seconds surley can not work in a swimming pool. Due to the nature of water a body in a pool will continue moving with the ebb and flow of the water. This is just an opinion!
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Posted By clairel
Depends on the size and depth of the pool (and a few other considerations too). Many private health clubs specificaly design their pools to be just under the size and depth where you absolutley have to have a life guard. If you don;t have a life guard in these circumstances then you have to have other suitable precautions. They often then use camera systems for monitoring and have pool side emergency alarms.
I have huge concerns over this as most clubs are not monitoring the screens frequently enough (I recommmend every 10 mins - use a signature sheet). They also often
not checking the alarm frequently enough (every day). I have also had lots of clubs fail to respond when the alarm goes off!!
As previously aid HSG179 for more details on the ins and outs incluing a table on the size and depths of pools related to the need for life guards.
If possible I would always prefer life guards though.
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