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#1 Posted : 27 May 2009 09:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By RM164 Hi, Currently in my first H&S role and need some help please. I need to do a working at height procedure, does anybody have one i can look at for comparison please. Any help is most appreciated!
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#2 Posted : 27 May 2009 09:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant For what task? Don't mean to be rude, but if you can't write the procedure yourself, you're probably not competent enough to be signing one off in the first place. There's no difference between a WAH procedure and any other risk assessment / safe system of work plan - it's an outline of the task, the hazards, how they're mitigated and what techniques, emergency arrangements and PPE provisions are required. You can only therefore choose the correct techniques and be confident you've not missed anything if you've been trained in that specific aspect of WAH yourself.
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#3 Posted : 27 May 2009 09:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell WARNING... A word of caution... to provide H&S advice regarding working at height you will need to be competent.. and confident in working at height yourself. My advice... get someone who is experienced to assist you in such a procedure that is tailored to suit your business needs.
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#4 Posted : 27 May 2009 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By DP Please find details of a basic managing working at height course. I am not associated to this company but I have attended the course. http://www.narc.co.uk/coursedetail/TFP2M.html This gave me basic information on the subject after 2 days!! It put me in a position to commence the initial planning of work at height and where to find the necessary expertise (dependant of risk) to assist help me plan the process. Take heed what the posters are telling you. Other peoples bits of paper wont help you plan potentially dangerous working activities.
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#5 Posted : 27 May 2009 10:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes Hang on guys, RM164 dosen't state what exposures at height he is looking to deal with. Using a stepladder in a store is hardly something which needs a 2-day training course, whilst roof work above glass is at the other end of the scale and most certainly requires expertise to design a safe working method. RM164, a little detail may produce some more helpful responses.
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#6 Posted : 27 May 2009 11:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By DP Stuff4blokes - with respect - I agree more detail would help but this is a request for a 'work at height procedure' to look at to compare! not what do I need to put in place for working of steps in a store. I feel the concern generated is justified until the poster responds and if they wish do indeed provide us with more detail. You know the people on this forum will duly support this person if they can.
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#7 Posted : 27 May 2009 11:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Coshh Assessor For all we know, RM164 is asking about a procedure for managing work at height - more information is needed before rushing to judgement!
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#8 Posted : 27 May 2009 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By RM164 Sorry about being vague. I am just looking into a general WAH procedure ( not task specific. My H&S boss will be amending as necessary and signing off when they are happy. My Boss will also be doing the task specific procedures. I am just looking at a general WAH procedure for our company. (how to manage it etc)
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#9 Posted : 27 May 2009 12:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Respectfully, you're still being vague. What's your Industry? Where are you in terms of compliance and where do you need to be? What do you understand a "Procedure" to be? One definition is a description of the specific arrangements to be applied so as to ensure legal compliance and safe systems of work, usually considered as an extension of Policy. You have to start off by identifying/ establishing the range of activities & tasks, the competencies of your people, the range of equipment used, the places they go, the hazards they might encounter and the others who may be at risk. You must identify any gaps in your SSoW via Risk Assessment review. You might want to establish your own rules, or confirm those of your clients. You'll also need to confirm how H&S measures are to be resourced, implemented, monitored, audited and reviewed - etcetera! My Procedures (which you aren't getting) aren't necessarily going to fit for you. There's a real wealth of information for you to start from on the HSE website - www.hse.gov.uk/falls/ - including the heirachy requirements of the WAH Regulations.
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#10 Posted : 27 May 2009 13:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By RM164 Ron, Thanks for the help, i will take that on board! I work for a maintenance company so i will look at the ssow, tools, plant, tasks etc. However, there is no need to say; 'my procedures (which you aren't getting!) aren't neccessarily going fit you' I was after any sort of example or link to a website providing an example or guidance apart from HSE. Not to steal your procedure. I feel there was no need for that. However, thanks for the rest of the advice. That is appreciated.
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#11 Posted : 27 May 2009 13:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter You could also have a look at: http://www.wahsa.co.uk/ (depends on your line of work). Otherwise, OK poor choice of words on the "you aren't getting"...................
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#12 Posted : 27 May 2009 13:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By RM164 No problem Ron, I do appreciate your advice though. Thanks again
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