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Posted By Joe
I'm getting mixed responses on the subject of working at height training relating to those that are required to use fall arrest equipment. I see there being two levels of training required with one being a general awareness and the other being directed at users of fall arrest/ restraint equipment required to select, inspect, wear and anchor.
What is the standard for working at height training at the moment i've seen anything from 1 hour to one day, is there clarity of time, content practice and theory?
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Posted By Dave Merchant
Anything less than a day is pointless. You can do restraint in half a day if you try hard, but there's a lot involved in fall arrest that has to be covered to make someone a competent user (rescue, correct selection of lanyards, daily PPE checks, anchor point ratings, etc.) beyond simply showing someone how to clip a hook to a post. Telling them half the story for half the cost is what gets them killed.
"Awareness" courses are for other people, who need to know what WAH is but not how to do it themselves. They cannot help but miss out most of the stuff people need to know to make competent, safe decisions, but many employers see "a bloke in a MEWP" as something trivial, hence only worth a trivial amount of training, until they find themselves explaining it to the courts.
There's no standard syllabus, but any WAH trainer doing other than rope access should be delivering from the content of BS8437 (with the crucial caveat that they must be teaching it AFTER FIXING THE ERRORS. If they say it's 100% correct as printed, they're not fit to teach). Training providers should be compliant with BS8454 in terms of their instructors, QC and audit processes, but it's next-to-impossible to apply 8454 to self-employed trainers.
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Posted By FAH
I'll go unreservedly with the first 2 paragraphs of Daves response.
The last para is a mixture of things I agree with & things I don't necessarily. Although the last sentence is correct! What a nonsense to create a BS that deliberately excludes such a large proportion of the potential trainers!!!
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Dave Merchant
I agree completely it's silly, but 8454 was written very much along the lines of ISO900X, so it has masses about levels of management, supervision, record-keeping, etc. and hardly anything about the practical task of helping someone learn. You need at least 3 people just to manage the paperwork.
8437 is supposed to tell you how to do WAH, but only the specific use of PPE stuff. You can't just read a copy to the students.
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