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Posted By Sniffer
Would you guys be happy with someone who is NEBOSH general certificate qualified to provide specific Manual Handling Training or should this be done by someone who has received specific manual handling instructor training?
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Posted By Zman
My own opinion, based on experience, is that MH training should only be carried out by someone who has had specific instructor training in addition to general H&S knowledge.
Not all H&S practitioners are 'comfortable' with delivering training, or indeed presentations in general. The instructor courses I've been involved with do not assume a level of competence in training delivery and encompass some level of presentation skills instruction to aid delivery, unless specifically targetted at those with previous trainer skills.
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Posted By Elfy
Hi Sniffer.
In 'general' terms I would be content with this person conducting the training if I had assessed that he was competent in both subject matter and instructional technique.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
I support Zman. Ultimately, the competency and credentials of those delivering this training could be subject to scrutiny in a Court of Law.
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Posted By Stuff4blokes
I have attended training courses that have been delivered with great style, great content, great skill that provided me with exactly what I wanted, where the trainer had no formal training qualifications.
The reverse is sadly more prevalent.
I have no formal training qualifications but I have delivered training courses and have received some excellent feedback.
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Posted By Ger Slyne
Hi Sniffer,
The person with the NEBOSH cert may be able to deliver this training but in the event of someone being hurt during the training course or at a later stage the onus will fall on the person who asked an "unqualified"person to deliver the training.Also the people he trained would not recieve the correct certificate for doing the course. In a claims court you would be hung out to dry.
Just my opinion
Ger
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Posted By Karine Sophie Mathurin
Hi Sniffer, I guess it all depends on your own competence and confidence. I passed my construction NEBOSH recently and decided straight away to share my knowledge by delivering training courses (in house)to which I have received excellent feedback. I am always very careful about the way I deliver the training and remain realistic about the goals to be achieved. I think that any knowledge/experience you can share with others is better than none, as long as you know what you are talking about!
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Posted By dean todd
Sniffer
I agree with Karine again we have to many H&S snobs,competent - properly or sufficiently qualified or capable or efficient;So here we go again who is more competent Graduate all certification no on job training or like a vast majority of people through the ranks general certificate , training course and years on the job?
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Posted By Ron Hunter
One of my own competency prerequisites would be good communication skills. This would include the ability to string a sentence together.
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Posted By Sniffer
Basically the scenario is:
I'm Armed Forces working within a medical environment. I am NEBOSH Cert qualified, Defence Instructional Technique qualified, HND in Environmental Health and working towards becoming occupational health qualified (3 BOHS modules down, 3 to go plus oral board).
I regularly provide information briefs for the guys and girls going to dirty, sandy places which encompasses health and safety as well as field hygiene and preventative medicine. So I am quite at ease in providing instructional training, and I'm not too bad at it (even if I do say so myself).
The medics (all Armed Forces too) where I work have just had their manual handling trainer posted to another Unit and are looking to fill the void. I was just unsure as to whether my quals would stand up in court as it would appear MOD personnel ending up in court is becoming a more frequent occurance.
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Posted By GaryC40
As long as the person has the knowledge, experience and delivery skills then they should be considered competent. Nebosh NGC is irrelevant as is it is only a base HS general qual.
Think about it! Does a 3 week course covering general HS make you a qualified trainer...NO.
That's why i get a little concerned about the lack of regulation in HS. Nebosh has become a problem regarding quality and competence. It is to HS what Hoovers are to vacuum cleaners.
Unless the person can prove competence then no they should not be permitted to train.
Up to you
GC
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