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Posted By Ronofcam
Hi all,
Had a chat with a guy at work (another H&S chap, but different company).
Contrary to the accepted wisdom, I've always calculated the AIR thus:
Number of accidents/average number of employees.
My company had 26 accidents last year (1 RIDDOR only), and the average number of staff employed was 152. This gives 0.17, or in other words, each member of staff was involved in an accident 0.17 times over the course of the year. Why is there a need to then multiply by an arbitary number? Let's say I multiply the 0.17 by 1,000. This gives a total of 170. 170 what? Bananas? Packets of gravy?
I understand the need to do it for accident frequency rates, or you'd end up with a silly number (e.g. 26 accidents divided by 293,000 hours worked gives a tiny and almost meaningless number), so can someone explain the logic of it for AIR?
My calculations work for me and my company, and I've resisted changing it to 'conform'. I just don't see the point, frankly.
Cheers,
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Posted By Phil Rose
You might find this thread useful
http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...ead=12595&sr=14&page=361
Personally I have always tried to avoid becoming bogged down in the numbers game (I know some people love it) as all too often I can't see that there can really be any meaningful comparison between the 'apples and pears'.
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Posted By peter gotch 1
Ronofcam
You are extremely unlikely to get any statistically significant trend in your company accident stats (especially RIDDOR reportables) for several decades however you monitor the stats (UNLESS processes encourage severe underreporting)
I would be spending mor time on making a virtue on near miss reporting with a KPI that monitors an INCREASE!!!
+ other positive KPSs as discussed on other threads, including this week.
Regards, Peter
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Posted By Ronofcam
Thanks, Phil.
The x1000 multiplier seems illogical, frankly.
I'll stick with dividing total accidents with average amount of employees working over the course of the year. This will always give a "x.xx accidents per person per year" result, as opposed to my number x1000. Daft, if you ask me - industry standard or not.
Peter, I agree entirely. I have records only for the last 3-years (that's how long I've been there, and no records exist before then). The trend has gone UP since I started, which my boss couldn't understand since I was supposed to be bringing it down, but that's another story (under-reporting in the past, boss????!!!). The only reason I'm doing AIR as opposed to AFR is that we've had pre-qual documents that ask for it in this format, even though AFR will give you a more accurate reflection of what's happening in your company.
Hey-ho. Thanks for the input, chaps.
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Posted By jeffrey david smith
to be truthful, the only reason you would multiply (usually by industry standard 100,000) is to be able to compare with other areas within your industry ie construction
so
Our company had ** per 100,000 last year, the industry standard is *** per 100,000 therefore we are below the industry standard.
It really depends against what you are comparing.
Good Luck
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