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#1 Posted : 27 June 2009 19:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Guys this is very, very specific but I hope that someone can help. How do you get a supine patient from a bed to an operating theatre table with a Wilson's frame into a prone position without lifting them, without using an Ander lift which has been found to be unsatisfactory in this instance? Manual handling query but really specific! Any help gratefully received.
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#2 Posted : 27 June 2009 20:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Blenkharn Must happen time and again - it's surely not a new problem. Ask a theatre nurse or ODA, or perhaps just leave it to them. Or try the manufacturer for advice, they may well have a written guide.
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#3 Posted : 27 June 2009 20:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw I know Ian request for info is from an operating theatre manager who is an nurse and an ODP and has 20+ years experience in theatres. Tried manufacturers, reps, tried research from reknowned centres of spinal surgery/theatres excellence such as Stoke Mandeville and Stanmore, but still have the manual handling nightmare in that no-one has devised specific manual handling training and instruction specific to this problem. That's what is being sought here - some method which overcomes the need to physically lift, or effectively combines minimisation of lifting with mechanical aid. Trying to stop theatre staff hurting their backs, shoulders and necks etc.
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#4 Posted : 28 June 2009 10:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Axford-Hawkes Hi Martin My wife is a student ODP and has a small book: A Practical Guide to the Prone Position for Surgery, written by Dr Patrick Ross and edited by Dr Glyn Smurthwaite. I think Patrick is at Salford Royal and Glyn is at Hope in Manchester. You might want to give them a call. The book is available free from one of the sponsors, try emailing guy.tuck@neuro-technics.com The book details how to use a Jackson Table which rotates the patient onto their front - much like using 2 plates to flip an omlette! That might be the answer to your problems, if budgets allow and the amount of surgery justifies the expense. Regards, Ian A-H
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#5 Posted : 28 June 2009 17:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Appreciate it Ian. Unfortunately I am told that the Jackson table is much the same as the Ander lift which has already been tried and found not to be acceptable for the job in hand in this instance. So I do really appreciate it but other info is hopefully sought...... Martin
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#6 Posted : 29 June 2009 13:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By ColinPink Hello You could try the National Back Exchange. They used to have a specialist theatres handling group. Colin
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#7 Posted : 29 June 2009 13:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Thanks Colin I will look into that, ta very much. Martin
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