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#1 Posted : 07 July 2009 20:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun allport Moral dilemma? My client have come up against a stumbling block with their fire wardens? Whereby some are not always within their designated area due to work activities dilemma the view of the Employer is to safeguard the majority of staff in view of their FRA and a control plan measure is the usual fire wardens returning to their designated areas in light of a fire / evacuation the view of the Employee is the Employer is not showing consideration to the welfair of the Employee in insisting that they are to return to the area for searching and are being put at risk? views please?
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#2 Posted : 07 July 2009 20:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By D H I agree with the employees. Why put people into potential fire situation to then get themselves and others out? How do you cover for holidays and sickness? If deputies step in, use these deputies when FW not at their post during working hours. But I suggest it all depends on the FRA? Hi risk area, plenty of wardens! Dave
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#3 Posted : 07 July 2009 21:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun allport Hi Dave It is a low risk environment, warehouse. I feel the deputies allthough they do exist won't help we would be in a position of swapping constantly and run a fear of no one carrying out the function?
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#4 Posted : 07 July 2009 21:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By D H So set out an action plan - if FW A is not in the area when the alarm activates then FW B takes charge. If they are paid for their duties - then manage them as a team. If they are not paid, then raise the safety culture and awareness of the need to look after the safety and themselves and others? Then do an evacuation drill and monitor the situation, and deal with the findings. Dave
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#5 Posted : 08 July 2009 18:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Larry OK, here’s what you could do. The system currently in place sounds like a fixed system designed for static workers. As stated once the workers become transient the system falls down. So make the fire wardens kit/stations static. At strategic positions place/create a fire warden station. Wall mount it, so it stands out. Contents could include: 1. One Hi-vis vest. Go for a different colour to normal issue such as blue or pink (both available), so they stand out from a distance and everyone knows that they are fire wardens. If any male fire warden staff whinge about wearing pink, just duff them up a bit. 2. A floor plan detailing which rooms/areas the fire warden checks and which direction to direct panicking staff/MoP's. 3. Room empty signs as required to put on the door handles of checked rooms. 4. Airhorn/whistle as required. All you then need to do is have sufficient fire wardens and allow them to “walk through” all areas during training. The first fire warden to the station (no matter where they actually work in the workplace) does the tasks as required. If a second fire warden gets to the station and there it is (the kit) GONE! Then the second fire wardens either evacuates or follows set procedures.
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#6 Posted : 08 July 2009 21:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun allport Larry like your thinking!!! thank you
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#7 Posted : 08 July 2009 21:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Rose I use a system not dissimilar to what Larry has suggested - it seems to work fine for us
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