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Posted By Keith Foster
I have recently begun to look after safety matters in a rural village hall. I find that, not so long ago, a supervised community service group was contracted to paint the building, including the downpipes. In a break, one of the workers climbed onto the roof without the knowledge of his supervisor. He sat on, and fell 3 metres through a skylight into the foyer. The supervisor took him home as he refused medical treatment. They subsequently lost contact with him for a week, before finding that he had visited hospital that night. The organisation supplying the workers say that have now reported the incident. Should the community centre committee have reported the incident once they ad found out what had happened, or does this rest with the 'employer' please?
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Posted By ITK
Keith was the injury a major injury or an over 3 day injury?
If it was, then it is the employers responsibility to report.
ITK.
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
This one can be complicated. Was the work being undertaken by a proper contractor? If so the contractor is responsible for reporting the accident not only to the authority but to the building owner as well. How was the damaged skylight repaired? Was it just left? How was the accident recorded and where? I'm afraid this is just one of many accidents that don't get recorded let alone reported under RIDDOR.
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Posted By Keith Foster
Not a proper contractor - just lads doing community service by painting - but they didn't need to be on the roof either. The accident only came to the owners attention later when the weather turned and they advised that the skylight would need repairing! I asked if the situation had been reported and was told by the supervising group that they had 'taken all necessary action'. Because of the nature of 'the employees' we were not allowed access to the identity of the individual, nor any injury details! Hey ho!
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Posted By Decimomal
Was this community work under the control of an 'agency' (e.g. probation service)? If so I guess any reporting would be their responsibility.
If it was not an employer - employee relatioship you are probably into the area of occupiers liability and civil law.
As far as reporting is concerned have a word with the incident reporting centre and thay will put yoy right.
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Posted By Phil Rose
Well this is a different one for sure. Lets try and drill down on it a bit. Generally (and please this is a bit of a simplification) the requirement to report certain accidents and injuries under RIDDOR falls upon employers (mainly in respect of their employees), the self employed (realistically I suggest that there is significant under reporting in this sector) and those in control of premises.
From the details that you have provided, I suggest that you fall into the latter category i.e. that you were in control of the premises.
In this case, you are required to report certain injuries to 'people not at work' if the injury is connected with work AND they are taken DIRECTLY from the scene of the accident to hospital by whatever means. As they were not taken DIRECTLY then I suggest that you have no duty to report under RIDDOR.
The Probation Service, may well have though, but that is for them to sort out for themselves.
I would however, record what details of the accident/incident that you can, and perhaps as a courtesy report this to your insurer.
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Posted By Swis
Agree with Phil.
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Posted By Keith Foster
Thanks Phil. That is in essence what we did.
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