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#1 Posted : 14 July 2009 14:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Buzz Is there guidance which backs up the Housing Act 2004, in particular reference to Chapter 1 which looks at the carrying out an assessment on risks to tenants in certain types of properties? i.e. a document which explains the process?
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#2 Posted : 14 July 2009 14:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw http://www.communities.g...s/housing/pdf/142631.pdf is an overall explanation and http://www.rla.org.uk/la...ing_act/firesafety.shtml will tell you what applies where. If this is not sufficient let me know with specifics and I should have what you need. Martin
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#3 Posted : 14 July 2009 15:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Buzz Hi Martin, THanks for the link. Why doesn't the Fire Safety Order apply to purpose built blocks of flats??
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#4 Posted : 14 July 2009 15:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw It does, ignore that, I am sure that it is a typo. It does apply to the common areas such as stairs, lobbies, etc but not within the dwellings/flats themselves.
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#5 Posted : 14 July 2009 15:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Buzz, don't forget the extras you have to consider for HMO's: the joint responsibilities inherent in some HMO's re the fire service carrying our fire risk assessments in the common areas, with the local authority carrying out the HHSRS gubbins in the remainder. Not in all cases but can happen. Enjoy!
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#6 Posted : 14 July 2009 15:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Buzz Ah right, makes sense, thought I was going mad! Why would the fire service carry out an assessment in HMO's? I thought it was the landlords responsibility to carry out the FRA in communal areas whether it was an HMO or a purpose built block?
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#7 Posted : 14 July 2009 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Following the 2004 Housing Act and the RRO 2005, local authorities and fire and rescue authorities signed a protocol to work together to improve fire safety. Within this, especially, the RRO applies to all areas of a HMO in the event of prohibition action under article 31. They work together normally to ensure that no duplication of inspection takes place. Have a look at appendix 2 of http://www.rla.org.uk/do...ORSFSguideApril62009.PDF which gives the rationale. Put simply, both have a duty to reduce fire deaths under seperate legislation and sometimes their paths cross: due to differences in property and tenant circumstances, the duty may fall to one or the other or both. Have a read: after appendix 2, appendix A on page 67 should tidy it all up. Anything more required let me know. Martin
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#8 Posted : 14 July 2009 16:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Buzz Have just been looking at this document, and have looked at Appendix 2. This is referencing LA's & the fire service; I assume this doesn't include housing associations? If not, why not, as the principle of horse houses are managed/leased etc is not hugely different.
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#9 Posted : 14 July 2009 16:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Dunno. I have never dealt with housing associations and do not know the precise nature of their responsibilities in terms of how they differ from any other responsible person. If anyone else reading this works for a housing authority, could they pitch in please?
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