Posted By Fred Pratley Perhaps, if your assessment were to determine its contagious (which it is?) and a reasonable precaution is people should stay off work at the 1st sign of a cold, it might suddenly be come a business risk for a director to sort?? -

Posted By AHS Maybe what he meant was an OH Contingency Management plan if events become more significant however being unqualified chose his words incorrectly.

Posted By Chris Pope I occassionaly see and supply curious risk assessments which just state what has to be done about a problem,real or imagined.

Posted By Ron Hunter John, beware that light at the end of the tunnel. It isn't a train and it isn't the end in sight - it's just some b*gger with a torch bringing you more work.

Posted By IOSH Moderator Ron I am assuming that you mistyped 'beggar'. Moderators usually hide words with asterisks. Jane

Posted By andymak Would there be such panic if it were called 'Fluffy Bunny Wunny flu'?

Posted By nigel just wait till swine flu mutates with avian flu then were gonna get flying pig flu

Posted By andymak Ooops sorry lost track of the days it's not Friday yet!

Posted By John J The current response level is way overboard and likely to lead to a rise in fatalities in other areas due to delay in appropriate treatment and misdiagnosing illnesses over the phone. If you take 9/11 as a comparison of the panic Americans stopped flying and started driving. The number of additional fatalities on american roads went up by the equivellent of crashing a jet every few weeks - but people still percieved it as safer than flying. This whole exercise is costing the country millions and will see little return.

Posted By Stefan Daunt Possibly the NHS flu pandemic service should be re badged lead swinger.com It's not coincidence that B+Q have a sale advert on the website. Not that I'm saying anything about people's moral integrity of course.

Posted By Solidgear I gotta stress think before you take doses of this so called vaccine. Citizens should be made aware of historical facts. Look at the CBS video article and then the AP article linked below (Not fully tried out clinically, and being fast tracked). Persons should be made aware of this so they can base at least some decision on what has been, rather than the media hype of death. http://www.dailymotion.c...ne-f...propaganda_webcam http://news.yahoo.com/s/...e_me...accine_fast_track Folks need the information to think before they are coerced to act without knowledge! Regards

Posted By Solidgear But they may well contain immune adjuvants such as Squalene. Do some research. They say it hasn't been properly tested, professionals outline there is considerable danger with potential unknown side effects http://news.yahoo.com/s/..._flu_vaccine_fast_track. it is no conspiracy theory, it genuine concern, that the mass media fails to mention to the general public.

Posted By Swis "Those that do NOT "catch" it on the first wave will be much worse off when a second wave starts....the second wave is frequently much worse than the mild first wave." John – I don’t agree with your comments mentioned above… Firstly because when a virus mutates, no-one can predict whether it will be much serious form or much weaker to the previous wave… (there’s no evidence as such) 2ndly… catching swine flu in first wave will not necessarily protect you from mutated strains that may emerge later in second wave.. so immunity is not guaranteed..

Posted By Peter Tanczos I was of the understanding that swine flu is already seriously infectious and the concern is that should it meet with bird flu (seriously harmful) the resultant mutation could be both seriously infectious and seriously harmful.

Posted By Solidgear http://www.spiegel.de/in...ld/0,1518,637119,00.html I don't believe the hype behind the media and pharma is simply one big corprotocracy trying to make a living during this period of recession. I hate the fear mongering tripe the box in the middle of my living room wall spouts out at me. The sooner people start getting their news from less agenda based sources the better. Now off n wash those hands folks.

Posted By John Richards I prefer to believe that the vaccine will be an effective way of immunising my system against the [current] h1n1 virus. I note however that past 'flu immunisation has a 50% chance of already priming the immune system. I noted that you forgot this piece: "Mass murder and death will also bring economic collapse and disruption, starvation and wars – and these events will lead to a further population reduction. To sum up: WHO helps create, distribute and then release the deadly pandemic virus, and this pandemic virus allows WHO to assume control of governments in North America and Europe and also order forced vaccination on populations by the very same companies that have distributed and released the deadly viruses in the first place and all under under the pretext of protecting populations from a pandemic they have created. The corporate mainstream media owned by the same “elite” group which funds WHO is systematically concealing from the general public the nature of the real danger of these H1N1 jabs by withholding from them key information concerning the interrelated activities of this group of organisations for their mutual profit. As a result, most people still believe that the H1N1 virus is a natural swine flu when even WHO has officially dropped the term “swine” in tactic acknowledgement of its artificial origin. Most people still believe the vaccine companies can deliver a cure; when the vaccine companies are preparing a lethal series of shots containing live attenuated virus, toxic metals and other poisons" Yep, the con_theory nutters are trying to get people to refuse the "shots", so as to get millions to die from 'flu.....

Posted By Solidgear I posted no such conspiracy, so stop putting words in my mouth. I simply have stated facts surrounding vaccinations and their testing, which you choose to blow out of proportion and go of on a discrediting CT notion. I advise you re-read what I posted before trying to make me out to be a nut job, find my context, keep that context and reply within that context.

Posted By Solidgear And here's more of what you tagged: "Authorities claim that the alleged victims received £1-2 to be tested with what they thought was a conventional flu vaccine but, according to investigators, was actually an anti bird-flu drug" "The suspects said that the all those involved knew that the trial involved an anti-**H5N1** drug and willingly participated Not much to do with H1N1 then." My point is simply, that the H1N1 vaccine was dangerous to certain members of society. Yes, so far the investigation points out that these people were falsely informed, but they still died from it (so this opinion that all up to date vaccines are safe is very questionable). "As for the epidemiologist....whoopee..no self-interest there I see, nothing to do with massive international publicity. 6-2-1, half a dozen to the other...each as bad as each other." Fair Point John, but it is better for the masses to know what all sectors of the professional epidemic and health system have to say on the matter, rather than that of the mass media machine (Driven by ratings and money making). "I noted that you forgot this piece: Mass murder and death will also bring economic collapse and disruption, starvation and wars – and these events will lead to a further population reduction.To sum up: WHO helps create, distribute and then release the deadly pandemic virus, and this pandemic virus allows WHO to assume control of governments in North America and Europe and also order forced vaccination on populations by the very same companies that have distributed and released the deadly viruses in the first place and all under under the pretext of protecting populations from a pandemic they have created. The corporate mainstream media owned by the same “elite” group which funds WHO is systematically concealing from the general public the nature of the real danger of these H1N1 jabs by withholding from them key information concerning the interrelated activities of this group of organisations for their mutual profit. As a result, most people still believe that the H1N1 virus is a natural swine flu when even WHO has officially dropped the term “swine” in tactic acknowledgement of its artificial origin. Most people still believe the vaccine companies can deliver a cure; when the vaccine companies are preparing a lethal series of shots containing live attenuated virus, toxic metals and other poisons". Where did I post this John????????, You show me please.

Posted By martinw It's a worry isn't it? Someone needs a check up from the neck up.

Posted By Heather Collins Solidgear - you are over-reacting. John has at no point slandered YOU - it's just the way you are choosing to interpret his posts. The way I read it he was trying to show that there's another side to the "don't get vaccinated" argument and that's the view being peddled by the conspiracy theorists and nutters such as in the link he quoted. I can't see anywhere that he accused you of being one of these people.