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#1 Posted : 29 July 2009 13:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Luke. Client wants me to include confined spaces (more specifically - gas detection) into a max 1.5 meter deep trench, the guys will be laying pipes in short duration work, head will be above trench most of the time.... bit of a new one to me... as all of our guys are confined space trained but never had the request for gas detection in a 1.5 meter deep trench with sloping access....trench is outside (sorry to point out obvious) any pointers (don't want to be OTT with this)
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#2 Posted : 29 July 2009 13:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Petrie People have died in trenches a foot deep (was at the bottom of an embankment with road traffic and the heavy gasses went to the bottom of the embankment and into the trench). If it's in a open well ventilated area then you may well be fine. Do a site specific risk assessment to determine what controls, if any, are needed.
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#3 Posted : 29 July 2009 15:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve hardcastle confirmation of soil conditions - trapped methane etc, clearance zone to preclude vehicle emmissions and gas chech, designate trench as gas check zone in specific RA.
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#4 Posted : 29 July 2009 15:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryan Goldsmith 16052 This is quite a common requirement in the utilities sector. It is quite possible for someone perhaps in a 2 man gang to be over come by CO from vehicle exhaust or for low oxygen levels in a chalk base. For the sake of the price of a gas monitor any detrimental out come however trivial may be avoided.
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#5 Posted : 29 July 2009 15:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Y As Bryan says, often a common requirement, although not always based on risk but rather a 'blanket' requirement. In saying that there are some areas, I believe the Thames valley is one, where certain soil types can either release trapped gases or reduce oxygen levels so some gas monitoring may be required. As has also already been said, exhaust gases from nearby vehicles or plant may also enter the trench.
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