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#1 Posted : 29 July 2009 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes
Has anyone done any noise measurement to assess staff exposures during live music performances in pubs?

Any pointers on likely exposures would be useful please.

If anyone has real data that they are prepared to share please email david@liability-risk.com.

...and yes I know that each scenario will be different but I am looking for indications please.
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#2 Posted : 29 July 2009 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Y
I haven't personally but wonder if a quick call to the EHO at the local council might help give you some sort of idea. Or perhaps the CIEH.
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#3 Posted : 30 July 2009 12:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson
I play drums in a rock covers band, and am amazed at the checks done / not done and the ridiculous measures that I've found locally.

Examples -

Noise limiters fitted to the jukebox, nothing in place for a live band,

Noise limiters that can be set off by one voice unaccompanied, but allow low frequency range very loud Led Zeppelin type music at high volume but wrong frequency to set off the limiter.

Noise limiters that are set off by the spoken voice not even highly amplified.

Pubs that expect the band to put their PA speakers on the end of the bar rather than set up a proper playing area - lovely for the bar staff.
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#4 Posted : 30 July 2009 16:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By John D Crosby
Before the previous regulations came into force with Action Levels of 85 & 90dB(A) I carried out some measurements in pubs. The results varied depending on the type of pub - Local Community pubs had about 87dB(A) even when the juke box was off - just 150 people hold a variety of conversations. Young persons pubs with juke box playing was about 95-97dB(A and nightclubs were up to 105dB(A).

Noise limiters were normally fitted to prevent the noise being a nuisance to neighbours rather than to protect the staff. I remember one manager claiming he never had the music loud enough to cause the limiter to cut in but then I found it was set at 120dB(A) to give 70dB(A) to the neighbours some distance away.

One thing I did find was that staff in some pubs who were shielded from some of the noise by the bar servery design and layout used to increase the volume so they could hear it but this meant that the glass collector or any member of staff going amongst the customers was subject to high levels of noise - Cured this problem by fitting a small speaker with a fixed volume behind the bar.

Remember that most staff in pubs will not be working more than 4-5hrs a shift at high noise levels so it is possible to use the weekly exposure when carry out the risk assessment - more deatils are available on the HSE Noise website.The site also has some examples of noise levels that are likely to be found.

Take care
John C
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#5 Posted : 31 July 2009 11:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes
Thanks to contributors so far.

Quite worrying is one report of 93dB(A)during a 2-hour period with peaks of 108dB(C). Even if the other quieter typical 4 hours of the shift add nothing to the dose there is still the possibility of hearing damage if a regular occurrence.

Whilst the Regs allow a weekly "get-out" is there cause for concern?

Any others like to add anything?
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