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#1 Posted : 30 July 2009 16:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney Hi Folks, Please advise of Case Law name. Being of a certain age I've forgotten the case law name of the case where the employer provided an in house training course for safety reps and the TU thought it should be one of their courses. The outcome being that the in house course was deemed suitable. As its been some time (17 years) there be something more recent but I can't recall there being one. Can anyone help? I've tried search and nothings come up. Many thanks Lilian
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#2 Posted : 30 July 2009 17:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Craven White V Pressed Steel Fisher 1980 ???
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#3 Posted : 31 July 2009 07:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By SteveD-M White v Pressed Steel Fisher [1980] IRLR 176. This early and its Friday...!!
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#4 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean Fraser This might be useful to you as well http://www.hse.gov.uk/re...rr_pdf/2001/crr01321.pdf
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#5 Posted : 31 July 2009 09:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney Thanks folks I've tried several 'methods' of remebering names and still can't. This is the one I'm looking for Have a good weekend Lilian
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#6 Posted : 31 July 2009 09:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Richards White V PSF would seem to be an appeal against an employment courts decision that the person involved did not need to undergo a [further] tu course of training, not that the employers training was better [or even adequate]. While the ec held that FURTHER training was not necessary the appeal referred the case back to the ec.
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#7 Posted : 03 August 2009 01:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter something a wee bit more up-to-date at: http://www.employmentapp...load/EAT561022732003.doc
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#8 Posted : 03 August 2009 10:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Richards It would seem that the "more up-to-date" is just the same. It is not about whether the employers course is better, necessary or even useful. Nor about whether the unions is better, or necessary. The case has been referred BACK to the employment court by the appeal court. The case would seem to be about whether the training was necessary to do the job, not about who or what the training was.
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#9 Posted : 03 August 2009 10:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By FAH Hi folks - I've been trying to remember the reference to another case but can't. All referenced law is UK. It referred to a Safety Rep who was disciplined [& I believe subsequently dismissed] because he applied his status as Safety Rep to an area of work that hadn't elected him. Perhaps this will jog some memories out there. Manufacturing plant with several production lines, each with their own Safety Reps. The Safety Rep in question got involved in the activities of an adjacent line & advised the operators to stop work. He was disciplined & I believe subsequently dismissed. He claimed for unfair dismissal via an Employement Tribunal who upheld the employer dismissal as legitimate because the Safety Rep had not been elected to represent the line in which he got involved - the TU had identified only the one line as his reference to the employer. I may not have the detail exactly, but that's how I remember it. Anyone out there know the precise detail? Frank Hallett
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#10 Posted : 03 August 2009 15:32:00(UTC)
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