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Posted By philip john
Hi Guys just a question on fire
Hotels L2 system
Educational L2/L3 system
Office ??? should I be looking for a L2/L3 system it is a very big offices 4 floor and 2 floor together.
my asking is should there be detectors in all rooms leading on to escape routes etc??
Regards
Phil
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Posted By tonyf
L2 would seem the sensible option, with escape routes, high risk rooms like plant/lift rooms covered and any room off the escape route covered, you may want to consider wireless to save on disruption to the office areas and decorations as well, some very good systems on the market that are fully complaint with BS5839-1. L2 which primarily covers "life" will be ample in low risk operations such as offices
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Posted By philip john
Thank you Tony.
This is what I would have done if I never asked but the whole point of this game is to ask especially IOSH forum users.
I asked because this fire guidance for offices & shops does not mention the system required for offices (but I suppose that's because its subjective i.e. big and small offices etc).
Regards
Phil
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Posted By Messy Shaw
By law, the resp person needs to provide an adequate means of raising the alarm in the event of fire. In certain circumstances - BUT NOT ALWAYS- this may mean automatic detection.
BS5839-1 2002+A2:2008 is clear on this.
In the case of a low risk building, with the likelihood of a slow developing fire (& low fire loading) and where everyone is awake, alert and familiar with the building, a category M (manual call points & sounders) may suffice.
If there is a SIGNIFICANT POSSIBILITY of a fire in an area of the building where it will the escape from the building before the fire has been discovered, then a detection system may be required.
So an office, will everyone awake, a 'normal' office fire loading and (where necessary) a protected route, it is very likely that a Cat M system will suffice. Even a single staircase office to 4 floors may be OK. In this example, it is said that the building is large, so likely to have more than one escape route which makes the building even more favourable for a M system.
I am not saying in this case detection isn't required - that will be down to a RA taking all specific matters into account - but I am saying, AFD may not be required. So I recommend you read the BS if you can
Some care needs to be taken when risk assessing to consider the fire load as some offices have large fire loads than other. Offices attached to fashion houses and those associated to media may have larger than average loadings. Also consider 'inner rooms' with no vision panel where a L5 system may be required with smoke detection in the access room
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Posted By Larry
Philip.
Have you asked your insurance company for their opinion?
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Posted By philip john
I will ask.
Thank you
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