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Posted By Alan Oakley-Jones
Hi
Again, another citiation of H&S to wrongly stop activities.
I believe the ratio is 2 children to one adult with the correct level of buoyancy aids and direct supervision, so either this is an over zealous organisation or equally an over zealous person in charge on the day.
As they relented and let them, it seems that their policy is not so strong.
Also is this a insurance company requirement?
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Posted By martinw
no news in this one really. The leisure centre say on their website effectively that any child under the age of four requires supervision 1:1 with an adult over 16. The lady had one child under four years old. She had another child aged over 4 which would have been left effectively unsupervised as far as the Leisure Centre see it. Nothing wrong with this.
Should have read the rules before attending.
Their game, their rules.
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Posted By Andy Brazier
It's one thing for the Daily Mail to use selective reporting. Its another for someone on this forum to then mislead with an incorrect subject title on their post. This pool was not requiring two adults for one child, and was implementing an arrangement that is very common in public pools. In fact the article even says that the pool organises 'splash sessions' for young swimmers, so there really was no news here.
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Posted By Kevin Brown
I'd be interested to know on what grounds discrimination is supposed to have taken place. If she was let into the pool after kicking off when other (unaccompanied) parents with plural offspring were turned away THAT would have constituted discrimination.
In this case she managed to get in because a H & S policy WASN'T implemented. (The policy seems reasonable to me but I'm biased, having had to rescue one of our twins going down for the 3rd time out of his depth, surrounded by other kids having fun. That was in a crowded pool, both parents in attendance, and two 6 year-old highly mobile kids to keep tabs on.
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Posted By martinw
Similar to the reason why I do not attempt to take my three year old onto fairground rides - she is simply too little. Height guide is clear and I check before going there to avoid the obvious disappointment, the Daily Mail reporters etc
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Posted By Peter F.
Nice to see the HSE respond to this. What if the person had 6 kids would it still be discrimination.
It's the same in a lot of LA pools. If anything happened to one of the children whilst parents are attending to the needs of the others then the lack of health and safety would be called into question.
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Posted By N Smith We've had this problem for years with child admission policies, there's always someone not happy with it. Perhaps the case below could have been avoided if this pool had followed the guidance http://www.healthandsafe...rk-332500-july-2009.html
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Posted By martinw
I find it really annoying. It is the responsibility of the parents to supervise children, especially if they cannot swim. If the parent(s) take more children than they can safely supervise AND they are there with them, not dumping them there and leaving - bearing in mind that there is no policy which states that parents need to be qualified lifeguards to supervise children - they surely must stand up and take some blame if damage occurs? I am not saying that safety cover should be there, but accidents do happen as the above post shows. Counter sue the parents as percentage blameworthy and they may take more notice. And I know that sounds heartless but there we are. Awaiting the boos and hisses...
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Posted By martinw
I meant in the above that I do not mean that safety cover should not be there. Apologies.
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Posted By AHS
Seems over the top to me but not discrimination.
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Posted By Phil Rose
Swis strikes again!!! I don't see anywhere in the report that says "A child must be accompanied by two adults in swimming pool".
I think that the ISRM issued some guidance some time ago 'requiring' 'one on one' supervision for children under 8 (I think) but believe that they did subsequently, clarify that guidance by saying that a risk assessment may result in a different level of supervision being required.
Don't you just love these threads!!!
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Posted By bluesail461
Irrespective of Swis's accuracy or otherwise with the headline, I think its good to provoke debate.
My view (as a parent) is they are my kids and my responsibility. You are irresponsible if you take children swimming if you cannot look after them (and yourself) when you are there. Pool attendants are there as a backup to us - not the other way around.
cheers jez
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Posted By RP
I believe that this was advice given un a Euro Directive some time ago. My wife took my two children swinning and was refused entry, they quoted the new H&S regulations. so she naturally called me to check this. (by the way both my kids are very good swimmers). I told her to ask for a complaint form, they could not find one so bent their rules and let her in...
maybe thats the answer...
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