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#1 Posted : 11 August 2009 16:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eastbourne Afternoon all. Guess I am a wee bit peeved. I work in a college. It is formed of different faculties such as Hair and Beauty, Construction including engineering, plumbing, wood trades, trowel occuptions, Art and Design for Diploma students. College also has various support functions such as IT, a refectory and an Estates team consisting of caretakers and cleaners. I have been given two weeks to write up some PowerPoint Presentations which a company we are paying a great deal of money to(!) are going to place on their system so new members of staff are inducted to my college using this method. Ok, not been given enough time which is a bit of a pain but the more I think about it, the more I am unconvinced that this is the right approach. Does anyone else use them and are they successful? Previously the inductions would be given a day of which the H&S section would come last, so I always say the company saves the best til last etc and this involves me standing in front with a brief amusing PowerPoint, flip chart and my wits to keep the session as up beat as possible. I hope that after 10 years of doing this I have it down pat and have not had a bad review - yet! But this is because I try to make it engaging, enjoyable and interesting using amusing anecodotes and experiences built up over time - I am sure we all have them. And now, while I sit here and put off the other myriad jobs we save until the Summer holidays to do, I am taking out amusing photo's from my PowerPoint which supplement the subject and trying to think of different ways of imparting the affects of hazardous substances on the body without the use of my drawing of a "person" on the flip chart I deliberately draw poorly to get a laugh and the PowerPoint is just becoming slide after slide of boring information. I have concerns about the effectiveness, I have concerns that the managers of the faculties will wipe their hands of doing specific inductions for the site - it is hard getting them to do it now - and I have reservations of paying company to do something which we do anyway, for example, we have a site on the intranet which lists the various H&S subjects, policies, procedures and various supporting documentation and tools. I don't know. I guess I am frustrated with the lack of involvement, the time limit (gotta get it done by September!) and the value of such a system. I am concerned as my presentation is normally an hour (cut down from 2) and now I have to cut it to shreds and leave the basics which will tunr from what I believe to be a strength of the college into a weakness. So back to my question, anyone here use an online based Induction system? Sorry for being grumpy. Mark
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#2 Posted : 11 August 2009 16:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Sheffield, City and Solent Universities have online inductions Mark. Have a look, vary in standard in my opinion. I'm with you, no substitute for the personal touch, but with many thousands of students sometimes the numbers overwhelm.
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#3 Posted : 12 August 2009 09:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Mark Whether a one size fits all induction is suitable for all requirements is debatable. As a rule a presentation is presented by a knowledgeable person who will also answer any ad hoc questions during or following the presentation. Can this be achieved online? Ray
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#4 Posted : 13 August 2009 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC I'm with you Mark - Can't beat the hands-on induction - PC's don't do it for me. I like the use of others experiences in the course giving some ownership of H&S back to the participants and you also become a visible (human) contact not just some name that is out there somewhere. I usually end the session with a small question paper at which point I leave the room to allow some of them to talk about it (the questions) and go over the handout to find most of the answers. It helps to re-enforce the subject. Feedback has always been great even from the occasional awkward one who I make sure gets involved. Keep it real!
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#5 Posted : 13 August 2009 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stefan Daunt Another drawback in letting an outside agency use your powerpoints is, if legislation changes on any of the subject slides, who will A: Be aware of the change? B: Who will make the change you or the Company hosting your slides?
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#6 Posted : 13 August 2009 15:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Kurdziel Hi Mark I am in a similar situation. Until 1st April I did the H&S Induction (usually every Monday morning) for the new starters at a government agency. The inductions weren’t brilliant but me and my colleagues did our best to get the message of H&S across and we tried to avoid ‘death by PowerPoint’. I used the materials as a starting point and tried to judge each intake, moving the areas covered to what I though was appropriate (have a wide variety of people on our site from cleaners to scientist even accountants) and answering questions as they arose. Post 1st April we are a new agency and the agency is now very different beast. Rather than all the people working on one site, we are scattered across 40 sites all over the country. There is no way we can send out our people to do inductions locally and similarly we cannot arrange for all new staff to come upto our HQ for their inductions. So some form of electronic induction it will have to be. Key points: 1. We are not doing a one size fits all induction; there are different modules depending on who is taking the induction and where, so that some one in Winchester does not have to sit through the fire evacuation procedures for the York site. Similarly an accountant will not have to read up the procedures for dealing with spills in our labs. This means that I have 10 modules to produce but what the heck. 2. The electronic presentation is not the whole induction. Local manages are responsible for making sure staff go through the induction and are responsible for providing back up, ideally they should be available when the person does the induction. If they do this in practice I don’t know but that’s the theory. Senior people call it ‘empowering local management’. 3. The system if you are buying it in should have a feedback system included (it's what are you paying for) so that inductees get to do a quiz at the end and their scores are noted. Anyone who is obviously taking the Mickey can be identified and you have evidence that they have seen the course and taken some of it in. 4. Finally, (you know this but I like to state the obvious) don’t assume just because they have sat through a H&S induction they have taken any of it in. The message has reinforced and repeated often, so posters, circulars etc repeating stuff that was in the induction for those who have switched off Finally (again), I wish I could be using PowerPoint for my presentation; instead I have been lumbered with something called CourseLab which is a bit like PowerPoint ver 0.1
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#7 Posted : 13 August 2009 15:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By CSL There needs to be the interaction between you and new recruits. It is important to give them a mix of media, talk, power point, DVD say on office safety, and maybe a Q & A at the end. It should be allowed to be at least 3-4 hrs long and don't forget to give hand outs.
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